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I had two Angio seals installed in right groin 3-11-08 and 4-24-08. Last
five months my right leg is hurting and loosing range of motion, can't cross
the leg or put on my socks. I need information. I mentioned to my primary care
physician
and he gave me anti-inflammatory. Anyone else have same problems.
Sam E., Choctaw, Oklahoma, USA, May 10, 2009
WHAT IS THE TIME LIMIT (SAFE) AFTER HAVING AN
ANGIO-SEAL IMPLANTED
FOR
A
PERSON TO HAVE SEX?
A.D., Ohio, USA, May 8, 2009
i am a 44 year old man that had an arteriogram
a week ago. A starclose device was used. I have had severe pain at the
site and i can feel the device
right under the skin. Does this pain go away with time or should I be concerned?
Has
anyone else had this problem?
John S., Brierfield, Alabama, USA, May 8, 2009
I am two days post op from cardiac catheterization
with a Mynx closure device. Doing great, only minimal pain yesterday,
no bleeding or oozing.
Jane F., Arcadia, Louisiana, USA, May 7, 2009
I underwent angioplasty on 4/30/09 and am thrilled
with the results. However, I am not thrilled with the Angio-Seal. Here
it is 6 days post-surgery and the
pain, while not severe, is uncomfortable at the seal site. I can't even walk
around the block without discomfort in my right groin area. If I put pressure
on the site, the pain is reduced, much like the relief one experiences when
using underwear that put pressure on a herniated area.
David C., Los Angeles, California, USA, May 6, 2009
I'm 21yrs old and I had a starclose put in a
year ago and I'm still getting a lot of pain in the area of my starclose.
My leg will randomly swell up, get red, and feel hot to touch. Every
time I go to the ER they do an ultrasound but they can never find anything
wrong.
I'm just wondering if anyone else out there is experiencing the same
problems. I also have problems with it hurting when
it
gets really cold too.
Fiona, California, USA, April 30, 2009
I just had a diagnostic heart cath done on Monday
4/27/09. I have not had a negative effect as yet to the Angio-Seal, other
than raised blood pressure,
but it seems to have leveled off to an acceptable level. I am concerned however
that I am required to carry a card stating that I had this procedure done.
That concerns me. 90 days is a long time. What can I or can't I do after
this procedure
that I've not been told about? I refrained from driving the two days they say.
NO baths for 5. No lifting 10 lbs or more for 2 weeks. That pretty much sums
it up. I was given Versed before the procedure, so if anyone discussed anything
else with me, I sure don't recall it.
Yolanda, Alabama, USA, April 29, 2009
I am having severe pain in my thigh and groin
after an angioplasty two weeks ago. A venous doppler scan ruled out blood
clots. Pain medication just makes me sleep and I am still in pain. I
see that several people have written to your forum about similar problems.
Has anyone found and answer to the problem?
Karen F., Chicago Illinois USA, April 29, 2009
Phillip -- a very small percentage of people are
hypersensitive to bovine collagen, which is the active sealant in Angioseal.
You might want to check with an allergy specialist if this might be the
case.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 9, 2009
I had the angio seal device put in after an
arteriogram on March 5, 2009. ever since then i have had hot flashes
and body sweats. i do not run a fever but i feel hot inside everywhere.
can
this be a side effect from the angio seal?
Phillip H., Gallatin, Tennessee, USA, April 6, 2009
This is an update to
my post on March 12 regarding the starclose apparatus
sticking out of my skin. I went to the surgeon and the explanation was that the
skin is supposed to grow over it; it then disintegrates over time. The surgeon
believes that since I am thin and don't have a lot of excess skin in the area,
it didn't heal over it as it was supposed to. The surgeon ended up yanking it
out of my skin - ouch - and the area has now fully healed.Also, the lumps in
the groin area have gone away. I was told they were lymph nodes that may have
been enlarged and part of the healing process. Yesterday I had another pulse
volume recording test, and my right leg did not do very well. Back for angioplasty
I
go at some point in the future.
JL, Waltham, Massachusetts, USA, April 4, 2009
I had an Angio-Seal inserted on January 14, 09. I had significant bruising
and indications that blood was trapped in the tissue, It was sore and had the
knots that protruded. I had pain in my right leg where the device had been installed.
I am experiencing significant blood flow loss to my right leg. The pain is from
inadequate blood flow to support walking any distance. A second angiogram performed
and appears as though a string has reduced the maximum size of the artery to
about 1/2. The blood flow reduction has been confirmed with doppler flow and
I am scheduled for surgery to go in and see what is or has happened and return
normal blood flow to the right leg. Walking with reduced blood flow to the entire
leg ia painful as ling as you are walking, but ease soon after sitting.
Don, Retired- 75 years old , Friendswood, Texas, USA, March 24,
2009
I am an Insurance Administrator-my client submitted
a claim with a Discharge
DX as "Post catheterization complication occlusion of right femoral artery, status
post surgical removal of foreign body - Angio Seal - Should the Insurance be
held responsible for payment of this expense?
A. F., Bahamas, March 24, 2009
i been home 3 days from angio seal I am in
sooooooo much pain, I look like I am 10 months pregnant I ache all
over and hard to walk and I feel so full I never ever hope ANY One
gets this
done! This is the WORST Thing I ever did
in my life! Headed to the ER.
V., Arizona, USA, March 21, 2009
Having not been advised of Starclose before cath other than a pamphlet
-- would have never agreed to it. Informed consent is a part of patient's bill
of rights. Any lawsuits because of physical harm?
Michele, Florida, USA, March 16, 2009
I am a 30 year old extremely fit male whom
has a venous malformation on my right foot. In order to find the extent
of the malformation I underwent a arteriogram on 3/9/09 in which Dr.
went into left side of groin into right femoral artery. I was closed
with the Angio Seal device. I was in extreme pain two days following
the procedure. It has been a week and I can't stand up straight as
I have a very uncomfortable feeling near where the insertion was made.
It feels like a lot of bloating or the pain you feel when one holds
there
urine for long periods of time. Is this normal as it has been only
a week, or is recovery time normally faster. I can't return to work,
I
work in Law Enforcement and it hurts to walk not to mention run or
move to quickly. I can't stand up straight due to the pain in the lower
abdomen
and top of groin. There is no visible bruising just uncomfortableness.
Someone please help. I want to get back to work. The Dr. never told
me about a Angio Seal and I think it was done to expedite time seeing
as
though the Dr. was hours late; and I was originally told that I would
have to lie still in bed for several hours.
Dwayne, Maryland, USA, March 16, 2009
JL -- that's something we've haven't seen reported
on this Forum before. Please update us when you find out more from the
surgeon.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 15, 2009
I am a healthy 45 year old woman who had vascular angioplasty in both
legs along with a stent. It has been 3 weeks since surgery, and today I noticed
what I thought was a scab at one of the incisions, is apparently the StarClose
sticking right out of my skin. On top of that, on both sides of my groin where
the incisions were, I have almond sized lumps in the area. I'm wondering if exercising
had something to do with all of this? I am going to the Surgeon tomorrow, but
can not believe I was told nothing about this "StarClose" other than the yellow-type-sticky
that was placed on the incision after surgery. What are they going to do, have
to remove it since my skin didn't heal over it? The thought is making me sick.
JL, Massachusetts, March 12, 2009
I am a 52 year old female. I had a catheterization
done three days ago, which was clear, this was closed with an angio-seal.
I was not told before hand this thing would be in me for 90 days. I
have has some discomfort and pain on walking and the first night a bit
of
a fever. The discomfort is not so bad now but I am still concerned
about this thing in me for 90 days. Should I still be careful with what
I do,can
I go back to work my job entails me standing for most of the day.Can
it dislodged during this 90 days? I really think you should be told
more about the after effects and after care and yes I did ask and was
given
a piece of paper with a few guide lines on it. Nothing said about the
pain when first
walking!!!
Janet T., England, February 19, 2009
My Dad had the angio seal placed on Feb.12,
09. He was not told about it or given a choice. I thought it was
a good replacement for the manual pressure.
However after reading all the comments, when he goes in for his ablation,
I will be sure to ask what the other options are.
Jeanne J., Wisconsin, USA, February 17, 2009
In response to Maureen
T. I hope your numbers
regarding your friends hypertension is a type -o, 210 over 200?? As for
why hypertension is a contraindication, any patients b/p must be under
control,(most hospitals have there own guidelines) prior to pulling the
sheath from the artery. The higher a patient's blood pressure is exacting
force on the puncture site, the harder the bleeding would be to stop,
or control. Usually on call meds are available for someone with hypertension
to reduce the force on the arterial wall prior to pulling the sheath.If
a patients blood pressure remains uncontrolled, better control of the
artery and reducing bleeding is usually best obtained by direct manual
pressure or by another device called the fem-o stop. In the opposite
circumstance, medications are available if the patients blood pressure
should be too low as well. Fluids and or meds could be given to help
obtain a more stable pressure prior to sheath pull if the pressure is
too low. I hope that helps.
M.G., Registered Nurse, West Virginia, USA, February 8, 2009
Just a reminder to readers -- if you look through
this topic and the related topic on "Femoral
Complications", you'll read a number of stories that might make
you too afraid of a very widely-used procedure. Just remember that this
Forum is, by its nature, the "Complaint Department". People seldom
write in to say, "I just had a cardiac catheterization and it was wonderful!" But
if they have a problem, they go to Google and wind up here!
Yes, there
are complications with any medical procedure. In this case serious
complications
are in
the very low single digits. However, less serious complications
or discomforts that are important to the patient also exist, as evidenced
by this Forum.
If you are having a problem, getting an answer from the doctor that there
is nothing wrong might make you think you're imagining things (it's in
your head, not your leg!). The reason for this Forum is to support
your self-knowledge, but hopefully not to scare you. For some perspective,
read this
excellent post from M.G. in West Virginia from someone who has had
a problem, and has good advice.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 7, 2009
Hello my name is Misty and my mother in law has had an Angio-Seal done
back in August 2008. I am now concerned for her well being. I have read about
these complications which are similar to hers. I am wondering if someone out
there can give me a update on the current symptoms , if they worsen or are new
ones. Possibly found relief???????
Please send feedback. Thank you.
Misty, Columbus, Ohio, USA, February 7, 2009
I had an angiogram about 3 weeks ago and also
had an Angio-Seal closure. I have had no difficulty with it until the
last few days. It is not painful but
there is a little "picky" feeling at the site. No bruising. Just this sharp on
and off impulse at the site. Cause for concern?
Van, Illinois, USA, February 4, 2009
I had an angiogram in October 2008, I was in
so much pain for 2 months and complained to my doctor about this. Finally,
he sent me to have a ultrasound
and was told that there was nothing wrong just my lymph nodes around the sight
were swollen because of the poking around. I also had a low grade temperature
for about a week. Well, its now February 3, 2009 I'm writing this still having
pain not as severe, but it interferes with relations, walking or crossing my
legs. I worry that the thing may cause more harm than my TIA did.
Y.N., Michigan, USA, February 3, 2009
I had my tenth angioplasty 1/2/09 during which
an angioseal was inserted. Because my angina did not resolve I was kept
in the hospital and on 1/5/09 I
felt a small "pop" in my groin, then a big "pop", called the nurse who called
a "code". The next I knew one of the cardiologists (fortunately this was during"rounds")
was applying pressure to my groin, I was introduced to the vascular surgeon who
would repair the artery and we were speeding to the O.R. Two more weeks in the
hospital and several transfusions later I came home but still need nursing care,
I was able to live independently before this incident. I hope I can once again.
It
is now 2/2/09.
EL, Maryland, USA, February 2, 2009
This is my second
post regarding the Starclose closure device. I have read several if not
all of the posts and posters
need to know that there are
several ways of securing the arterial site post cardiac catheterization or
angiography/arteriogram. Starclose is the type of device used after my
negative cath in 2007 and in which
I posted in May, 2008. After my deployment of Starclose device I had excruciating
pain for a year. My right groin site is now tender but tolerable. Most days
i don't even notice it as still being tender but it is still noticeable
on other
days. Having said that, I must tell you that no procedure is without risk.
I have every confidence in the cardiology group that did my procedure.
I was just
a little dismayed at first when I found out that the starclose, unlike angio-seal
or boomerang procedure, or the Syvek, chitaseal patch that are only temporary:
the starclose remains permanently in the artery and it only makes sense to
me that it could potentially create an area of occlusion in an otherwise
normal
artery. Having said this, as I read others posts who say they are afraid to
continue with angioplasty even though they have 100% blocked arteries,
I have concerns
that people are not going to receive appropriate interventions due to fear.
I would just like to say, communication is the key and no matter how
hurried you
are to get the procedure over with or how busy the Dr. is, make certain all
of your questions have been thoroughly answered prior to consenting.
I do not regret
having had my heart catheterization and I must accept my responsibility in
the process of patient care. I should have asked for a time out to think
about this
new procedure (starclose) before I consented to it. I hope no one reading this
will delay important treatment due to fear. Ask questions and DEMAND your answers
before you sign. Thank You.
M.G., Registered Nurse, West Virginia, USA, January 15,
2009
Debra -- the bruising is a hematoma -- bleeding
under the skin. It's usually a small amount which is not uncommon, but
if it gets larger in size, call your cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 14, 2009
i just had a cardiac cath. done on jan. 06/09
and i have a hard lump below the site and my leg is turning black and
blue, it this normal?
Debra, Pennsylvania, USA, January 11, 2009
Hello. Has anyone had a successful lawsuit
against St. Jude's for an AngioSeal STS used in 2005-2006 for migration
down the leg? Or
any other problem with it moving? If anyone has the instructions for
the product from October 2006, I'd appreciate receiving a copy. This
is a wonderful page and the editors are to be congratulated.
A friend had complications with an AngioSeal STS being used in October
2006. She was very obese and it is likely that it didn't actual get installed
properly. It went down to the calf of her leg and had to be removed surgically.
I saw the pathology report and it said that the suture was attached to
one piece and a piece of bone to the other. All of this and no coronary
artery disease. Anyway, I was looking to find the instruction book for
2006 because the one now on St. Jude's web site is from 2007. I would
like to look and see what was contraindicated at that time, such as obesity
and if it was of concern that she had blood pressures of 250 over 200.
If anyone has one please let me know by emailing me at mat296Q@gmail.com.
Also I don't understand why they indicate hypertension could be a problem
using an AngioSeal STS Anyone understand why?
Maureen T., Connecticut, USA, January 8, 2009
EM -- Sounds like a hematoma.
If it isn't growing in size or swelling, it probably will be reabsorbed
over time, but we
would recommend calling your interventional cardiologst and reporting
it. He/she might want to look at it just to make sure.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, October 5, 2008
had a PTCA on 10/2 and they used a Mynx. Layed flat on back first day
no swelling or bruising. Next morning noticed a line of purple bruising. By the
end of the day there was a 3" x 1.5" line of bruising to the left/medial to the
incision site. Some swelling as well, persistent pain and tenderness. Checked
with the physician on call and advised that it may be a hematoma. Bruising not
getting bigger nor is swelling. Worth a trip to the ER or not?
EM, Massachusetts, USA, October 5, 2008
Pain and numbness after
angiogram. I had an angiogram done September 22nd 2008 and have had
pain and numbness down
my inner thigh since. I think the starclose has compressed my femoral
nerve! The inside of my leg was completely numb for 1 hour after I
stood up and dissipated 1 hour after that. 10 days later still occasional
sharp
pains down inside of leg and incision site. Going to consult with cardiologist.
I'm guessing I'll need vascular surgery.
A Doctor, Missouri, USA, October 2, 2008
I am 49 years old and received angioplasty in Feb 2008. I received the
Angio-Seal Closure Device in my femoral artery. The device did not "seal" properly
and required pressure to be applied at the site approximately 6 hours after the
procedure due to continued bleeding but other than that, I had no problems with
the product. I had a second angioplasty 6 days later where the traditional pressure
method was used. I was a bit concerned about the device getting in the way or
becoming unseated at the time of the second incision and procedure but all turned
out fine.
JTP, Kansas, USA, October 1, 2008
i had a heart cath one
week ago.., they inserted an angioseal... i consented because the nurse
said it was easier recovery
and faster... well i have has persistant pain in my right groin area...
it hurts when i walk... i have horrible bruising 1/3 of the way down
my thigh... i went back today for a check up and the doctor did and
ultrasound and said there were no clots or anything for me go back to
work, to take
tylenol and get on with my life... i insisted that they pain is there
and it gets worse the more i am walking on it... i have even been running
a fever... can you have an allergic reaction to the seal? my doctor
didn't seam a bit concerned about my pain and now i don't know what to
do? am
i gonna be
in
pain during the 90 days while this thing dissolves?
R Duffield, Summersville, West Virginia, USA, October 1, 2008
Suzan -- as for anti-inflammatories,
what about aspirin? Wasn't aspirin prescribed as an antiplatelet
drug to take with Plavix? As for drug coverage, check out our Forum Topic
on Financial
Assistance for Plavix.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 29, 2008
I am a 56 yr. old who
had the perclose device used at my last 2 angioplasties (I have had
4 angioplasties and 14 stents, 10 of which are in my heart)). This
last time they had to go in on both sides of the groin. The closure on the right
side was fine, but the one on the left produced some pain. It wasn't at the actual
penetration site, but about 4 inches away and on the inside of thigh. It was
a burning sensation under the surface and almost felt like a muscle was being
stretched way beyond its limit. I mentioned it to the cardio doc, but it didn't
seem to alarm her. Only felt it when moving a certain way. Anyway it got better
in several weeks and disappeared. By the way, my doc has forbidden me from taking
motrin/advil/ibuprofen due to increase risk of heart attack. Thanks doc, tylenol
doesn't help with inflammation! Also told to stay on Plavix for LIFE....losing
drug coverage 9/30/08....looks like I will be petitioning the drug companies
soon!
Suzan K., San Jose, California, USA, September 21, 2008
I had a Star Closure
put on my femoral artery during uterine artery embolization on Aug
4 08. The area had a bump
(pimple like) on it for the past month and a half. The bump started to
go away
the last week and now I can see the star closure is actually half way
out of my skin. I know it is it because it is metal and star shaped.
I don't know what doctor to go see tomorrow. Any suggestions? Back
to the Interventional Radiologist? I did not give consent before the
procedure
and was surprised when they handed me the info card in my hospital
room about
the closure device.
Ellen, Georgia, USA, September 18, 2008
I work for a group of
cardiologists and am a former x-ray tech. I worked as a tech in the
days when you laid flat
with a sandbag over the femoral artery
puncture site for a minimum of 6 hours. The angioseal seems like a great alternative.
My husband has had 3 catheterizations and I had my first one last April...all
closed with Angioseals. No problems until my husbands most recent. He developed
a staph infection (not MRSA) at the Angioseal that wasn't properly diagnosed
until it abscessed thru the skin and he was rushed into surgery. He has been
in the hospital for almost a week and I have no idea what the long term prognosis
is for his recovery. Those of you who have had great luck, be grateful. There
are those who have had life threatening complications.
Karen, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, USA, September 14, 2008
It seems to me that if
one puts the Angioseal in too tight that it could tear the arterial
wall and make a larger
hole than the original hole. If it is put in too tight the string might
break
and send the inside flange embolizing distally. Of course these are
due to improper placement using too tight an application. The string
has
to be very strong so it does not break and allow an acute embolization.
Joe Reynolds MD, MHMP, LLC, Bastrop, Louisiana, USA, September 13, 2008
I underwent a cardiac
cath yesterday. I was told during the procedure that the doctor was
finished and about to close
using a star closure. When he
completed the closure, it hurt me greatly. The cath lab staff kept telling
me to be still, and I was trying. However, the pain was intense, not
at the puncture
site, but radiating down my inner thigh to my knee. Now, I am 48 hours out,
and my inner thigh feels somewhat numb and my pain is getting worse.
I move my leg
certain ways and the pain is terrible, again, not at the site, but down the
inner thigh. Anyone else experiencing this?
R. Stephens, Birmingham, Alabama, USA, September 12, 2008
LKG, see our response from September 9.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 12, 2008
I had an angioseal placed
after a cardiac cath. I had no bruising immediately after the cath
but then developed bruising
encompassing my entire groin and halfway down my thigh with swelling
in my inguinal area. Saw my cardiologist and he said that this was
normal. Cath was done in June, 2008 and I have been having pain shooting
down
my thigh since. On occasion it is so painful that I can not move. I
am a very stoic person and do not know why this is happening. Had an
ultrasound
today (OCT.) and my MD said it was normal. He now wants to send me
for an MRI if the pain does not resolve within 2 weeks with a regiment
of
Advil. Any responses will be greatly appreciated. Maybe I should see
a neurologist?
LKG, New Jersey, USA, September 9, 2008
Tom Gillings of Australia
writes (May 5, 2008 posting): "I am 50
and had a cardio-ablation 7 days ago. Used a Angio seal. And i am going great,
no problems. I think you yanks are a just a lot of screaming wingers. GET OVER
IT." Dear
Tom: What is a "winger" (screaming, or not?) Please reply to this post as there
is a dinner riding on a bet we made
after reading yours of May 5 3008 (post).
Val, New York, USA, September 9, 2008
NZ
-- if you read through these comments and those in the related topic, "Complications
from Femoral Site During Catheterization,
Angiogram or Angioplasty", you'll see that you are not alone. This may be
due to the femoral nerve getting nicked or traumatized. This has little to do
with
the
Angio-Seal, but it sometimes happens during the femoral needle "stick".
It
may
go
away
in
time.
Some
patients in these Forums
have found help by seeing a neurologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 9, 2008
I received an Angio Seal
back on June 1st, 2008. I had the normal bruising and pain the first
few days. However
within the first month or so, when I walked long distances, my right
groin area would hurt. Recently last month and again this month, approximately
a week prior to my menstrual, I have been having a lot of pain in the
right groin down to my leg and in my abdomen area and back. Prior to
getting the Angio Seal, I never experienced the issues with groin pain/leg
pain around menstrual time. Anything that I should be concerned with?
NZ, Colorado, USA, September 7, 2008
I had a angiogram in
July 08. I have an angioseal. It is suppose to dissolve in 3 months.
I still feel it. This is my crazy
question. A few days ago it was really bothering me. I woke up to go
to the bathroom in the middle of the night and my foot was completely
numb. Is it possible that the angioseal blocked flow to my foot and caused
this? By the way I fell and broke my foot, can't walk on it for 6 wks.
It was just a really strange accident and the thought crossed my mind
that maybe this could happen. let me know if anyone has had this
happen.
Maddy, California, USA, September 4, 2008
I had the StarClose used on me during a cardiac catheterization in Sept.
06 instead of the collagen plug which had been used two years before. I was not
aware of this until after the operation and was informed by the Dr. that this
was a "positive" change. Since that time I have experienced pain in the lower
right groin and recently there are times of shooting pains that will take my
breath away. These are all at the site of the StarClose and when I told the Dr.
of this 2 yrs. ago I was told it would decrease with time....it hasn't.
Terrie, New Jersey, USA, September 2, 2008
Hello, my wife had Uterine
Artery Embolization performed 23 days ago. Like many posting here,
we were given the StarClose
pamphlet in the recovery room. We had no previous knowledge it would
be used. The first week went fine and the wound healed normally. Everything
seemed to be going in the right direction. The StarClose pamphlet stated
that she should experience soreness and tenderness for one week. Now,
23 days later the area is still very tender to the touch and she describes
a burning/stinging sensation (4 out of 10 on pain scale). There is
also a pea sized lump under the surface of the skin. She HAS NOT experienced
any numbness in the foot/leg as some describe, but the discomfort to
the puncture sight is constant. Can anyone tell us if this is part
of
the normal healing process? Should the pain be gone or will it get
better? How alarmed should we be at this point? This is very demoralizing
for
her to finally have relief of one problem only to have possibly caused
another. Thank you all very much for your time.
Jayme, San Diego, California, USA, September 1, 2008
Cora -- the Perclose device is basically a system
to suture the artery where the puncture was made -- the manufacturer Abbott
refers to it as "suture-mediated" closure. The idea is that is
closes the artery more quickly and can reduce bleeding -- the only thing
left in the
artery is a small monofiliment polypropelene suture. We don't believe that
the suture biodegrades.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 9, 2008
Hi I have been on this
site before and I have left a posting in another area of the site.
I am wondering re the Perclose
device. Does it dissolve or is it permanently placed in the artery?
Anyone know information about this device
and how it seals the artery?
Cora Doyle, Ireland, August 9, 2008
I am 39 yrs. old and have a angio seal to the
right side of my groin, had no problems at the time it was done. I went
back to work 8 days later and that same day a bruise came on my thigh
about 3" to the right side of the seal. The bruise is about 2.5" long
and 1.5" wide, deep purple in color, with some pain when I walk and some
tingling in my toes. Is this something that I should be alarmed about?
And what could have possibly
happened?
R.M., Georgia, USA, August 6, 2008
I am a 48 year old female
and I had a cath 5 days ago which turned out to show no heart blockage.
The AngioSeal
was put in and I got up to walk in 1
hour. In 2 hours I should have been going home and the pain in my back got
so severe that I could not stand up. A CAT scan showed a bleed with
a 3x2 hematoma
on my kidney. I was admitted to ICU spent the night, more CAT scans and blood
work and I finally went home on Wednesday afternoon. I had to stay at a vacation
rental we own as we live in a stilt home and could not do stairs. I am still
there today. I am still in pain. The back pain has let up but I have a strange
pain in my lower abdomen not unlike cramps which I am done with. None of
these complications or this device were discussed with me. I did not
have symptoms
and was not ill. There was a shadow on a stress test after a one time A-fib
event several months ago that was stress related. I would not have
had this done if
I had known about this risk. The only risk I was informed of was a stroke.
Elizabeth, Spring Hill, Florida, USA, July 26, 2008
As in any procedure there can be complications.
BUT I have had two Angiograms and both used the Angio seal and I am so
pleased with them I asked for them the second time around. they are faster
to seal and heal, you can get up walking faster and I do not have to
worry about an artery blowout. look into what you did after the procedure
did you rest the whole day? I know I did not and paid for it with increased
pain but a little rest and elevation did the trick. now there are those
who might have an adverse reaction to the device as with any procedure/device
but to generalize it with pull it off the market NO I want the option
of the best closure out there, I an sorry your Doctor did not discuss
with you the options but DID YOU ASK him about the procedure and ALL
the options I know I did and it is my body and my health so I will ask
all questions prior to a procedure I have had an adverse reaction to
morphine, so thank God I ask about everything going into my body, when
in the hospital with my first cath and wearing a red warning bracelet
about morphine a nurse brought two syringes into my room to give to me
and I asked "WHAT IS IN THE SYRINGES?" had I not asked wow morphine...it
is your health ASK about everything ask the risks even on the table you
have the right to know and decide. look up the procedure unless it is
an emergency
ask what will be used and read up.
Kevin, Arizona, USA, July 19, 2008
I last posted on to this site 12-12-07, following
an unsuccessful surgery to remove the StarClose that was put into my
body, without my knowledge or informed consent, on 3-8-07. My pain did
decrease substantially, but my leg and buttock are still deformed, due
to the device having cut-off blood flow. On 4-10-08 I underwent a second
surgery to remove the StarClose, this time with a fluoroscopic table
in the OR, and it was removed. I still have numbness from knee to crotch;
however, the surgeon says this will dissipate. The "so-called" doctor
who put this device in me was incompetent, thank God, and he hadn't gotten
near my artery! I feel very lucky in this regard. If you'd like to chat
about your experiences,
e-mail me.
Iris Newbury, Ph.D., , Cypress, California, USA, Ph.D. (i.newbury@yahoo.com),
May 31, 2008
Had a false positive
MIBI with a followup angioplasty and they used the new StarClose vascular
closure system which basically
worked fine. The problem came when the bill came; I was charged $1596
for the device! That sounds like egregious highway robbery; they come
in boxes
of 10 units - maybe I paid for
all ten!
Bob, California, USA, May 9, 2008
As a healthcare professional, 53 years old, I had a heart cath due to
a positive stress test. I just happened to be going to the cath lab , the same
day a rep. was demonstrating the latest and greatest device, called a starclose.
My heart cath was negative the starclose was deployed. During the deploying of
the device, and although I was still under the influence of versed, I felt 2
very painful "pinches". Since my procedure, 10 months ago, I have had progressively
worsening of intermittent, right groin pain. The last episode was 5 days ago,
and I almost called 911, it was that intense. I assure you I am not a cry baby
or wimp. I do not even know if the severe pain is due to the device. All I know
is I never experienced it until I received the star close and other than some
allergies to environmentals, I am essentially healthy. I truly believe this object
left in my femoral artery is the blame for my discomfort.
M.G., Registered Nurse, West Virginia, USA,
May 8, 2008
I
am 50 and had a cardio-ablation 7 days ago. Used a Angio seal. And
i am going great, no problems. I think you yanks
are a just a lot of screaming wingers.
GET
OVER IT.
Tom Gillings, Comment maker, Australia, May 5, 2008
The pain may
not have anything to do with the Angio-Seal, but most certainly has to do with
something related to te catheterization
-- perhaps nerve trauma that occurred during the femoral (groin/leg)
artery catheter insertion. Definitely discuss this with the interventional
cardiologist.
Let
us know how you fare.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 4, 2008
I'm a 43 year old mother.
I had the Angio-Seal 7 days ago. I'm having so much pain in my leg and
now it seems the
pain is moving up. The pain rate is a 7. I can't stand up and walk. The
pain
gets so bad i can't stand it. The nurse in the hospital said 5 days
bed rest and walk after that. That's what i done now i want to cry at
times
from the pain. What do i do?
Rose, Alabama, USA, April 29, 2008
Rebecca -- if bleeding from the
femoral artery continues after discharge from the hospital, definitely
call the
interventional
cardiologist
who did the procedure or
other healthcare professional. About 3 patients out of 100 experience
complications after a catheter-based procedure that uses the femoral
artery. Bleeding
is the most
common complication. A hematoma or purplish bruise that is growing
in size is a signal that some bleeding is occurring under the skin (subcutaneous)
-- if the bruise is not growing, then the bleeding has stopped -- the
bruise will disappear in time as the body absorbs the blood (this is
not unlike getting a "black eye"). All the angio-seal does
is stop the bleeding sooner, using a collagen plug which is absorbed
into the body over the next few months. But complications can occur with
or without these devices. If you suspect anything, call the cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 28, 2008
My mom just got a Angio
Seal about three days ago.... There wasn't supposed to be any bleeding
or bruising. The hospital
gave us a book to
keep for 90 days. One thing I'm concerned about as a 15 teen year old is that
is the bleeding supposed to continue?? And will the bleeding stop? Nobody
informed
my mom that the Angio Seal is a device... my mom read these comments and now
is worried. She scared that something could happen. I'm worried about my mom
and
who should she see about this????????????
Rebecca, New York City, USA, April 27, 2008
I am a 54 year old female
that had the Angio-Seal device implanted in me in May 2005 following
a angioplasty.The cardiologist
did not discuss this with me before the procedure, or ask my permission,
it was just done. I was absolutely horrified to read the information
saying these devices were NOT to be used on people who were auto immune
suppressed. Well, the cardiologist was super busy in the cath-lab that
day so he had his P.A. do the pre-op physical. They simply were too
busy, they over looked my terrible psoriasis on my right leg. The P.A.
said
my skin was clear. WRONG. I have had terrible right leg pain ever since.
The worse thing is I have chronic yeast infections every three to six
months now, which I have to take medications for. This likely will
go on for the rest of my life.The cardiologist was supposed to put a
stent
in for my clogged artery, but decided not to. Thank God for that. I
for one have had nothing but problems ever since they used this device
(Angio-Seal)
to close my femoral artery. I personally think they should be pulled
off the market, before they ruin any more lives. They used these to
do more procedures and make more money. Really they don't have the time
to just stand there and hold pressure,(that's considered the old way.)
The bottom line is they use these devices because they can make more
MONEY by doing more procedures. I have filled out the form on the FDA
website and I recommend anyone else having problems do the same. They
have to know by now. Something should be done. My cardiologist is so
busy doing these procedures he does not have time for follow up visits.
I have been rescheduled eight different times in four months. He knows
he messed up now he does not want to hear my complaints. I am going
to
get a lawyer and do something about this if possible.
Kathy S., Illinois, USA, April 26, 2008
An angio seal was used
on me after a negative result heart cath. I developed swelling that
first night home and it
became worse the next day. I went to the
E.R. and the bruising and edema were even more worse. At this point..the doctor
had a ultrasound/doppler of the groin. They told me it was a large hematoma
and to keep an eye on it. I was afraid that something was going to break
loose and
go to my heart. I missed two full weeks of work,and still have to apply a heating
pad to the area at bedtime. The stiffness kills me and my entire leg wants
to fall asleep at time, like my circulation is being disrupted. It's
been 2 1/2
months now with these ongoing symptoms .... I wish they would have never placed
it in my body. I had no clue that they were even going to use the stupid thing.
It still feels too big for my small leg artery, but I can't do anything about
it now...best
wishes to all...
T.L.B., Ohio, USA, April 22, 2008
To R.F. in Maine posting
USA, March 2, 2008 concerning your angioseal. I have had very similar reactions with my
Nitinol Star Closure Device. It turns out that I am allergic to the materials
found in the device. What you are experiencing may be an allergic reaction.
My activity level seems to be directly related to the severity of the
reaction. My daily ritual of meds are 1 Allegra a.m. 1 Benadryl afternoon
1 Allegra mid-day 1 Benadryl mid evening and then 2 hydroxixine at bedtime.
Try taking Benadryl and ice the area. If you get any relief, however
small, yours maybe allergy related too. I will be having surgery to have
this device removed
within the next 2 weeks. I will post after this surgery.
E.S., Dallas, Texas, USA, April 14, 2008
The last two postings
show the range -- they are both about the StarClose device, one describes
a serious complication
and the other discusses how much better the StarClose was than the first
conventional
closure.
Complications are relatively small in number, but it is not small
when the complication happens to you.
What the medical profession does
is
look
at the big numbers.
Does one closure device have a significantly larger complication rate
than others? How does it compare to the complications seen with conventional
manual pressure? A few years ago, an analysis of the NCDR Registry did
just that and found
that the VasoSeal device was associated with a greater complication
rate --
this data analysis caused the device to be withdrawn from the market.
We urge all patients to post their experiences here (for all to read)
but also to file
a formal report with the FDA, if they experienced a
complication. Hospitals are supposed to file these reports, but they
don't always.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 12, 2008
I am a 26 year old mother of 2. I recently had
an angiogram (2 weeks ago)
and when the procedure was done I had the "normal" applied pressure and was closed
up and sent to recovery...waited the 4 hours and was sent home. The pain for
the next two weeks was horrendous. At the end of my two weeks I was scheduled
for the Gamma Knife for the second time in 7 years. Part of the procedure is
a angiogram (again) I believe because of needing to be able to go back downstairs
for immediate continuation of the procedure I was given the *starclose* as
opposed to waiting for the conventional closure waiting time. I had the Gamma
Knife and later was given the pamphlet about the starclose and barely remember
being told I was receiving it only hearing what sounded somewhat like a staple
gun clicking about four times. After reading all of these entries about negative
responses I have to say I so far feel that the recovery is MUCH better than the
first angio where I had regular closure and the waiting period when I felt sooo
much pain following...I couldn't walk and my legs were numb for t weeks...with
the *starclose* I feel slight discomfort and a lil rockish feeling at the sight
but not much more. I did just have four screws in my head and the pain may be
more concentrated there so I may not be feeling my leg as much but it is definitely
not as bad as it could be. I am also usually not able to take the time to recover
as I should be the mother of a five year old and a five month old. I feel bad
that there were soo many bad experiences with these devices but I only had it
done on Fri April 4th, 2008 and it is now Tues...sooo far soo good! So it is
not all bad. I think everyone heals differently and everyone's body handles and
accepts or denies things differently as well. I am hoping that things remain
in good standing for me with this but good luck
to the rest as well.
J. Johnson, Pawtucket, Rhode Island, USA, April 8, 2008
I had a cardiac catheterization
on Nov. 19, 2007. I had not been informed before, but a Starclose device
was used
to plug the femoral artery. After procedure I started having pain in
my right leg after walking 50-60 feet . Further tests confirmed that
Starclose is blocking my artery . I had a very serious operation to
remove Starclose and repair my artery. After 2 months I still have pain
. I
have a bare-bone insurance, and this unexpected repair operation cost
me a small fortune. Is it the fault of doctor performing catheterization
or is it
a
faulty Starclose device ?
K. D., New Jersey , USA, April 8, 2008
To the two Lizes -- Liz
from UK -- the bruising is called a hematoma and comes from bleeding
under the skin -- it usually
disappears, but if it hasn't or is growing, and if the pain you're
having doesn't resolve, definitely discuss this with your interventional
cardiologist.
Liz from Florida -- we're sorry to hear of your problems.
It's also possible that the damage to the femoral artery was caused by
the cath itself (needle puncture, etc.) and not the closure device, but
suffice it to say, it's one reason we have been trying to educate patients
and doctors on the use of non-invasive CT angiography for diagnosis,
where appropriate, especially to rule out coronary disease (it is excellent
for that) and also to promote knowledge about the radial approach, where
the wrist artery is used instead of the femoral. Not appropriate in every
case, but has been shown in study after study to singificantly reduce
access site complications.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 31, 2008
My heart cath was three
years ago, an Angio-seal was used. The femoral artery was damaged which
has required two by-pass
surgeries. I also had a staph infection that took months of home IV care
to clear. The numbness and pain are still very problematic. I gave up
on pain management two years ago and simply live with the pain and limitations
imposed on my life by a medical product that should have been recalled
years ago. A compression stocking helps a bit on the really bad days.
My
cath was clear, no problems (my teenagers were stressing me out!). I
am 44 years old and now have to wonder how long my by-pass will be functional.
I am terrified of going through another femoral by-pass, but have been
told that 10 years is about average for by-pass expectancies. I wish
I
had never used the Angio-seal and I strongly suggest that compression
is used over ANY closure device. This is very important in woman with small
veins, stature and is clearly indicated on the instructions of all closure
devices. I guess the doctors prefer quick ambulation and the extra profit
over the well-being
of their patients.
Liz W., Florida,USA, March 27, 2008
I had an angiogram followed
by the insertion of an angioseal 10 days ago. I was told there would
be a small amount of bruising
and a little lump at the
insertion site. Half of my right thigh is black and blue and there is a pain
not unlike a torn ligament which runs from my groin nearly down to my knee.
I also have a dull ache across my lower abdomen.The lump itself is hard
and painful
and yesterday my lower back went into spasm on that side. I am having great
difficulty sleeping as the pain wakes me every time I move. Any idea how
long this is likely
to carry on?
Liz, United Kingdom, March 26, 2008
I had a a angiogram a few days ago. Afterwards
I found out they used
an
Angioseal & I am not happy about it. If I had been given a choice between nothing
being left in my vein & the angioseal I would have chosen nothing. Now I am constantly
worried that something is going to go wrong or a piece is going to separate and
go drifting through my blood stream. The only reason, as far as I can tell, that
they used the angioseal is so I could be discharged about 3 hours faster. Of
course now I have to worry for 90 days that something will go wrong. I would
have gladly stayed overnight so that I would not have to be burdened for 90 days
worried about this thing.
To say that I am pissed is an understatement.
S.D., Kentucky, USA, March 21, 2008
All of you who are having
issues related to an internal closure device, please accept my apology that
you were treated with one with no informed consent.
It is an unexplainable phenomenon that eludes me (a cardiac nurse) why patients
are not informed of the risks associated with the devices. There is an option
to closure devices called Syvek (www.syvek.com) Very safe and nothing is left
behind. Ask your physician about this topical device as an option. If he/she
has not heard of it and it is not an option, demand manual compression with
gauze. It takes longer, but does not have the risks as internal closure
devices do.
I wish the best to those of you with complications for a speedy recovery.
K.N., nurse, Ohio, USA, March 14, 2008
I had a heart cath in 2002,
they used an angioseal. The day after I had sharp shooting pains into
my abdomen. I went to the
ER and had a doppler which they said was fine. I almost passed out from
the pain when they were up higher than the site. I was unable to straighten
up to walk since the pain was so severe. I went back to the ER after
a few days and they finally did a CT scan. They found a retroperitoneal
bleed.
I was hospitalized for two days. My problem now is that I am having increasing
right groin pain radiating into my thigh after I have been walking for
awhile. Sometimes it goes clear down to my knee. I am wondering if this
is from scar tissue at this late date and who I should see about this?
Cherilyn S., Illinois, USA, March 7, 2008
Carol Ann -- as you can
see, your story is unfortunately not unlike many others posted in this
topic and the related topic in
the right column, "Complications
from Femoral Site". So many patients write in that they've
been told there's nothing wrong -- except they are experiencing significant
pain, right where the catheterization was done.
First of all, this may or may not have
anything to do with the AngioSeal, which is a just a closure device for
the femoral artery. It may have to do with some
type of complication that occurred around the femoral artery access site
-- for example, sometimes the femoral nerve (which lies parallel and
close to the femoral artery) gets traumatized or pinched during the needle
stick, or the closing. Sometimes this pain does go away. Some patients
have had success seeing either a vascular surgeon or even a neurologist. One
reason that physicians say nothing is wrong is because they have no way
of seeing
or
measuring
something (it's just your word...).
But
a neurologist actually can run a test to see if there's nerve involvement
causing the pain. Good luck and let us know how things turn out.
Name, State, USA, March 2, 2007
In November of 07 my dad
had an angio-seal. He has had terrible pain in his right groin area ever
since and has gone
back once to the doctors whom did the procedure and was told there was
nothing
wrong. He also saw his PCP and was told there was nothing wrong. Just
about two weeks ago one of his doctors passed away and now we are really
in a
bad place. I am very concerned because he has such severe pain he can
hardly walk at times and sleeps less and less. On top of that he worries
a lot
about it and that doesn't help the situation at all. Please help me!!
I am willing to share any and all information I find if you all will please
do the same. I need to find a doctor who will help.
Carol Ann, Kansas, USA, March 2, 2008
R.F. -- did you begin any
new medications at the same time? Some drugs, such as Plavix, can have
this effect -- however,
DO NOT stop taking any drug without consulting your cardiologist -- it
can be harmful, especially if you've had a stent placed.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 2, 2008
I'm
eight days out from receiving the angio-seal. I just started getting
rash on my right leg (same side) abdomen and left
leg. Anyone have this problem
and should I be concerned?
R.F., Maine, USA, March 2, 2008
To the person who sent
in two extensive postings to this topic, with the initials J. E. T.,
your comments are most interesting
and you obviously spent a significant amount of time writing them, but
your
email address is invalid -- there is no such domain -- and we have a strict
policy of not posting any comments unless they have been sent from a valid
email address. Please contact
us and we will post the comments.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 28, 2008
Just to let you all know..there is a new closure
device called "Boomerang Catalyst" out there. It allows you to walk sooner,
in two hours, all while leaving nothing behind in your vessel. Check it
out on-line. There is no risk with this device as there are with devices
that stay in your vessel. If you are looking for a more natural method
to closure, this is it!
R.K., Ohio, USA, February 18, 2008
On 01/21/08, I underwent
a right femoral angiogram and a Angio-seal device was used to plug the
artery. As of 02/04/08, I
have had no bleeding and very
little soreness. My job requires lifting up to 100 lbs. from ground level.
Any thoughts as to when/how long I should wait before returning to work?
Joe E., Arizona, USA, February 4, 2008
I had a cardiac cath done
on 2.1.2008 and had an angioseal put in without my knowledge. I've had
a cerebral angiography
done a yr and a half ago and I was not in pain like I am right now. Why
is that?
Grace, New Jersey, USA, February 2, 2008
The FDA has recently approved
AccessClosure's Mynx Vascular Closure System. Are there any thoughts
about this replacing
Starclose and Angio-Seal? Has there
been any complications reported from the Mynx device? Thanks in advance.
Tom., New York, USA, January 27, 2008
Unless I am wrong patients
should be advised that using any closure device should not be billed
as it is part of the
procedural package. The choice to use any one of the devices is certainly
debatable; one over the other or none at all. I think I would prefer
a pretty nurse apply pressure to my groin than rely on a controversial
device.
My point is closure is closure and is part of the
cath or surgery or injury.
P., Georgia, USA, January 11, 2008
Byron -- this forum topic is only about problems
(or not) with vascular closure devices, something you should discuss with
your cardiologist. As to your specific situation, it sounds like you have
what is known as a "total closure". This is a topic of great
discussion among interventional cardiologists and surgeons. There are questions
and
debates
over whether it is beneficial to open a totally blocked artery, especially
when it is well-collateralized. An important piece of information is whether
or not the part of the heart muscle supplied by this artery is being under-perfused,
that is, getting less blood flow/oxygen, than it requires. If so, increasing
that may be of significant benefit. It's a complicated situation, and we
would recommend discussing this more with your cardiologist.
By the way, normally
a cardiologist would not be doing the bypass surgery -- that would be
performed by a cardiothoracic surgeon.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 11, 2008
After reading this forum,
I am very reluctant to go ahead and get angioplasty. There are so many
negative comments
about it, I just got diagnosed with at 100% blockage in the right artery
and
the 64ct showed that collaterals are giving me the chance to live. The
cardiologist says he will try the stent placement, if not possible through
the angioplasty he will then do the minimal invasive bypass. I am very
concern now if I should discuss with him all these bad experiences described
here and go straight to get a bypass.
Byron, San Fernando, California, USA, January 11, 2008
Scott -- you've hit on one of the reasons hospitals
use vascular closure devices (there are a number on the market). It's called
"early ambulation" -- the patient can walk sooner and thus, in
an uncomplicated case such as a diagnostic cath, there is no overnight
stay involved. The
sandbag method requires extra nursing time, discomfort, etc. as well. The
swelling should go away, but we urge you to talk to your cardiologist (the
one who did the cath) if this does not resolve. Too often, the doctors
doing the procedures never get the feedback from the patient.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 11, 2008
I had the Cardio Cath procedure
on the 20th of Dec and they found no blockage and all went well with
the exception that
the Dr was late (Instead of the procedure beginning at 10AM -- I went
in around 6pm) and I wasn't given the options for closure devices or traditional
manual pressure and I had the Star Closure. This feels like a little
rock
under the skin, hurts when running if I take long strides, and areas
around it are extremely sensitive. I asked about having this removed and
was told
I'd have to see a Vascular Surgeon and it was extremely risky. What are
my options and is there a way to explain why a doctor would use this
as opposed to the traditional sandbag on the groin for 4-6 hours? My impression
was the lateness of the doctor lead to the need to use an expedient closure
to prevent my required long term stay (Potentially overnight given the
hour of the eve when
the procedure was completed 7pm).
Scott , Tampa, Florida, USA, January 11, 2008
Stephen -- thanks for writing in. We host these
Forum Topics, but we try to emphasize that all the various complications
described here and in other threads are a small minority of cases. This
is not in any way to minimize
some of the pain and suffering caused by these complications, but it's
a reminder that they only occur about 3-4% of the time. The great majority
of patients have an experience more like yours. That being said, raising
the
issue and the type of complications is an important task -- and patients
have very few "forums" to communicate these stories.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 11, 2008
I am a fit 65 year old
just out of hospital after my seventh angiogram -- four of these were
for stents. I have always
been fine post ops, and the angio-seal has always been fine with just a
bit
of soreness and a small lump for a few weeks
slowly disappearing.
Stephen M Bishop, U K, January 10, 2008
Terry -- the Angio-Seal
is a temporary seal -- holding the puncture site in the artery together,
not unlike a band-aid,
to prevent bleeding. When it has done its job, it (usually) is absorbed
and no further seal is necessary because the artery has healed.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 8, 2008
I had an Angio-Seal vascular closure device
inserted in my femoral artery, about a month ago. I was given a leaflet
about the device, which says that "The device is absorbed within 90 days
of placement". If this is the case, what happens after 90 days - do they
have to insert another
one - or a more permanent one?
Terry Slattery, Spain, January 6, 2008