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Renuka -- in a patient such as your father, one
who has a history of coronary artery disease, the standard invasive angiogram
is usually the test of choice, since there is a high likelihood of finding
a problem -- and a catheterization can be turned into an angioplasty if
something obvious is found. Did the angiograms show any disease?? Iodinated
contrast dyes, used both in catheterizations AND non-invasive CT scans,
have been associated with kidney problems, and patients with low kidney
function
must be managed
carefully
for these
types
of tests,
but we haven't seen any studies regarding an effect from dye on Potassium
levels.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 16, 2008
My dad has had a temp. pacemaker put due to low
heart beat 29 . He is 71 and has already had a triple bypass 10 years
ago. A heart attack a month back, an angiography 15 days ago and then this
last
week. All happening too fast. Potassium levels too rising. Could this
be a result of the dye at the time of the angio or due to very strong medication.
Had a kidney complete test done 3 months ago with all within range. Please
clarify.
Renuka, Pune, India, March 14, 2008
Cenia -- the tests you have had fall into two
categories: the stress tests, whether nuclear or echo, are "functional
tests" -- among other things, they measure whether or not the various parts
of your heart muscle are receiving sufficient oxygen from the blood --
or how well your heart is "functioning", but they don't really
visualize a blockage. The standard angiogram (or cath) actually images the
arteries and
any blockages can clearly be seen. A newer type of angiogram, done with
multislice CT (called a CT Angiogram, or CTA), can also be done. Like the
standard angiogram, it visually shows any blockages. But it is non-invasive
(no
cath lab) and
takes about
15 minutes. It can carry a higher radiation dose than a cath, but the dose
is equal to or less than a nuclear stress test. However, your cardiologist
may want to do the stress test for specific reasons. Whether or not
a CT angiogram would be useful for you is something you should discuss
with
your
cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 12, 2008
Question about dense breast tissue and false
positive/false negative nuclear scan. In 2006 I had an inpatient chemical
stress test and a nuclear scan at a major heart hospital; the findings
of which were various inconsequential blockages in the RCA and a major
life-threatening blockage at the top of the LAD artery, so much so that
I was not allowed out of bed until an angiogram could be done the next
morning. The angiogram showed absolutely no blockage anywhere at all
in the LAD and an 80% blockage at the top of the RCA which was stented.
The
false negative/false positive was blamed on dense breast tissue. Now
I am due to have another stress test next week at my local cardiologist's
office. He wants to do the nuclear scan and says he can take the previous
issue into consideration, but I am doubtful and do not know what to do.
How can my doctor know whether the results of the new scan--whatever
it
shows--will be trustworthy? I don't want a problem to go undiagnosed,
and yet I wouldn't want to be sent for an angiogram unnecessarily. Would
you
please help me sort this out?
Cenia, New York, USA, February 12, 2008
F/u to earlier post - My mother's aneurysm is
in the heart (near the aorta I believe). Does this make a difference?
Thanks for the info.
TD, Maryland, USA, February 11, 2008
TD -- allergies to contrast dye are relatively
specific but your concerns should be communicated clearly to the physician.
You didn't mention where the aneurysm is located, but the answer is that
an MRA may be an option -- there is a contrast agent sometimes used in
MRAs, containing
gadolinium, which has been implicated in a specific reaction in patients
with impaired kidney function. But there are also techniques for performing
MRAs without contrast. See our article on methods
for doing contrast-free MRAs.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 11, 2008
My mother was recently diagnosed with an aneurysm
(via ultrasound). Now the Dr. wants to follow up with an angiogram to
determine the nature/severity of the aneurysm. My mother is in relatively
good health
(for a 72-year-old) but she's extremely sensitive to meds and I'm concerned
about the contrast dye. Would an MRA (mentioned above) be an appropriate
alternative? If so, what are the risks with an MRA? Thanks in advance
for your advice.
TD, Maryland, USA, February 11, 2008
Jokhan -- read these posts. You could go for an
angiogram, or get a multislice CTA which has been shown to be 99% accurate
for negative results -- that is, if the CTA shows no coronary artery disease,
you can be confident that there is none. And it's only 15 minutes, non-invasive
and avoids the risks (although they are small) of the more invasive procedure.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 17, 2007
Hi I am 30 yrs old male, having a healthy life.
but Last week I felt little discomfort in my chest, somehow I got concern
to meet a cardiologist. I met cardiologist, Dr suggested me for TMT. And
TMT found +ve for inducible ischaemia, other things are negative. Dr's
advise is, I can ignore it or I can go for angiogram for confirmation.
Kindly suggest me what should I do, shall i go for angiogram?
Jokhan, Bengalore, India, December 12, 2007
Tom -- CT Multislice and CTA are two names for
the same procedure (see the Editor's Blog entry from yesterday about this
-- "The
Super X-Ray". Your question about whether or not CTA is equivalent
to a standard invasive angiogram is most timely. The largest study yet
on this subject was presented on Monday at the American Heart Association
meeting (read
our article about the CorE 64 Trial). CTA is pretty much an imaging
mode to see structural data and blockages, not so much to measure flow,
although some research on CT perfusion imaging is being done at Johns Hopkins.
However, if your mother's cardiologist is concerned about blocked arteries,
then CTA is an excellent test for ruling out blockages -- highly accurate
(99%). We
just
conducted
an
interview
with
Dr. Michael
Poon, president
of the Society for Cardiovascular CT, and he stated that for patients where
there
is a question about blockages, but where the likelihood is low to intermediate,
that's who CTA is for. Certainly I would ask the cardiologist more about
CTA, especially for an elderly patient. The test takes 10 minutes and,
outside of possible allergies to the contrast dye, there are no complications. But
your mom's cardio may have good reasons why he wants the angiogram. Just
make sure you understand what those reasons are.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 7, 2007
How does a CT Multislice differ from a Coronary CTA? What are the pros
and cons? Will either, or both, provide the cardiologist the same kind of diagnostic
information as an angiogram? Why would my mother's cardiologist want to do the
more invasive angiogram rather one of the less invasive procedures? She is almost
85 and is taking Betapace to control her atrial fibrillation. His concern seems
to be centered on arterial flow from one part of the heart to another.
Tom F., Tucson, Arizona, USA, November 5, 2007
I live near portland, oregon. My cardiologist
who initiated the tests which led to my double bypass open heart surgery
in june, 2006, says he wants to do another angiogram now. I don't want
it, i want an alternative non-invasive procedure. What is available to
me here? Who is the best known cardiologist in the Portland Or and greater
Portland area who also uses non-invasive testing for 'blockage' due to
sudden shortness of breath before they resort to invasive measures. I
will be 68 this month. Type 2 diabetes, SLE patient but never have taken
steroids,
I refuse. At time of my stress test, the only part of testing which showing
premature heartbeats, I had 6.8 potassium levels, a rarity for me who
is usually low in potassium. My cardiologist is angry with me, but I need
a 2nd opinion, where do I go please? Thank you for taking time.
Mary T., Myself fighting to live!, Oregon, USA,
October 3, 2007
Nancy -- an alternative to a cath, as you can
see in this topic, is modern CT Angiography which, when done by experienced
cardiologists or radiologists, can rule out the presence of coronary artery
disease. The current state-of-the-art CT scanner would be a 64-slice unit.
The test
is fast (15 minutes), does not involve an arterial puncture and healing
(just an IV for contrast injection) and is very accurate for ruling out
narrowings. The downside is that contrast IS used (some people are allergic
to contrast
dye, some with compromised kidney function need to limit their exposure)
although contrast is also used in a standard invasive angiogram. Also there
is a degree of radiation exposure -- in modern systems, it's about the
same or slightly more than an invasive angiogram. You can read more about
the various tests used to diagnose CAD in our Imaging
and Diagnosis Center.
By all means, discuss this with your cardiologist. But it has been shown
in several studies that If the multislice CT angiogram shows no disease,
you
can
be confident that there is none and you can relax. When he said there was
a "shady area" -- how did he see this -- what test??
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 25, 2007
My doctor said I had no symptoms but since I
have anxiety attacks (thinking heart attack) he would go ahead and do a
heart cath. He said one area was shady but he thought it could be where
my heart is laying in my chest or the fact that I have large breasts -
should I do the heart cath?
Nancy Adams, McDonough, Georgia, USA, August 22, 2007
Tracey -- angiograms, both invasive (done in the
cath lab) and multislice CT types require the use of a contrast dye for
the imaging. An adverse effect of this dye is that it can cause toxicity
if the kidneys are not functioning correctly -- it can even damage the
kidneys. So the doctors are right in not wanting to use this until it
can be determined that the kidneys are okay. There is a test that doesn't
use
dye -- called an MRA, or Magnetic Resonance Angiogram. These are less
available than the CT or cath lab exams, mainly because not all hospitals
have the
equipment, or the personnel to interpret the MRA.
Once an Acute Myocardial Infarction (a.k.a."heart
attack") is over, the main thing is to stabilize the patient, reduce
any risk for another infarct and ultimately do an angiogram in a timely,
but not emergency, fashion to assess the damage and to determine the course
of treatment. And this treatment decision has recently changed: last year's
OAT trial showed that opening up the totally blocked artery that caused
a heart attack showed no benefit over drug therapy, once 3 or more days
had passed -- which seems counter-intuitive, but the results were pretty
clear. The recommended treatment for a heart attack is to do an angioplasty
within the few couple of hours after the onset of symptoms, but this requires
getting to a hospital that can perform emergency angioplasty quickly, and
the hospital must be able to diagnose and get the patient onto the cath
lab table ASAP (known as "door to balloon time"). By doing angioplasty
quickly, the heart attack is in effect stopped and damage to the heart
muscle is minimized. Let us know how your mother in law fares.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 6, 2007
Hello! My mother in law is currently in ICU. She
suffered what they have listed here as "Acute Myocardial Infarction with
Acute Respiratory distress" her kidneys are not fully functional, but are
coming around at a slow pace. Here is my question, the ICU MD wants her
to have a angiogram but state they have to wait for her kidney function
to recover. It has now been 3 days, she lay waiting. Is there any risk
of her waiting for the angiogram? Is there an alternative test you could
recommend in place of the angiogram? ICU MD's say they will not know the
full damage until this angiogram is performed. Do you have any recommendations?
All advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
Tracey Thornton, Suisun, California, USA, June 6, 2007
Nita -- your question is a bit off topic -- if
there's interest, we'll start a new thread. Costs for procedures can vary
quite a bit, depending on your hospital or testing center and at what level
you're being tested. Also echocardiograms can vary in terms of how they
are done and the different types -- for example is this a nuclear stress
echo, an echo where adenosine or similar drug is used for patients who
cannot perform the exercise? You also typically have a variety of charges:
the echo itself, the interpretation of it, copies made for your cardiologist,
etc. Our best suggestion is to call a few hospitals or test centers in
your area and ask. For more information on the different tests used to
determine coronary artery disease, go to our Imaging
and Diagnosis Center.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 19, 2007
What is the average cost for an Echogram? Thanks.
Nita, Texas, USA, May 17, 2007
I have read that the average cost for an angiogram
was $7,000.00 over 10 years ago. I have also read that a sonogram, ultrasound
or echogram cost only a few hundred dollars. Is this information correct?
Secondly, if an ultra sound test is usually step one, when and why is the
angiogram, as a step 2, even needed? It's curious that I have never had
a cardiologist want to do anything on me first but an angiogram and they
never mention the ultrasound when I refuse the angiogram -- as I have always
done. Finally, what percentage of angiograms actually trigger a blockage
so that immediate invasive procedures must be taken to save the patient?
Gerald Oros, OrosCo Product Specialties, Collinsville, IL United
States, October 30, 2005
LaRee -- there are alternative tests for coronary
artery disease, such as MSCT scans (read about them in our editor's
Blog) that are less invasive. But if the functioning of the heart chambers
is what's being looked at, then step one is usually an ultrasound, and
then an angiogram. If you have questions as to whether any test is necessary,
a good rule of thumb is always to ask, "How will this test change
her current treatment?" If it won't, or if her ideal treatment can
be found in other ways, then perhaps the test is not necessary. Any invasive
procedure has risks, although percentage-wise, angiography complications
are pretty low. But your cardiologist probably has specific reasons for
ordering such a test. You should discuss the concerns expressed above with
your doctor. And please let us know what you find out.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, October 15, 2005
My mother is 83 years old, diabetic with many
allegies. Her heart specialist would like her to have an angiogram because
she seems to have undue pressure and enlargement in the right chambers
of her heart. She gets along pretty well now and I am afraid that this
procedure may cause more problems than it solves. Any information would
be helpful in order to make an informed decision.
LaRee Spears, Benson, Arizona, USA, October 14, 2005
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