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Sanju -- unfortunately, CT Angiograms also use
contrast dye, although a bit less than a standard invasive angiogram. But
you should discuss your allergy with the cardiologist who will be doing
the invasive angiogram -- there are techniques to lessen reactions, special
contrast dyes that use less or no iodine and hydration protocols -- tests
may need to be performed to judge exactly what in the dye causes the hypersensitivity
reaction -- it may not be iodine.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 24, 2010
I have severe allergy to iodine containing dye
and need a coronary angiogram.
What are my options?
Sanju, Encinitas, California, USA, April 24, 2010
Patrick -- Nuclear stress tests (done with a
technetium isotope, a.k.a. Cardiolite) carry a not insignificant amount
of radiation exposure -- about 14-15 millisieverts -- so an annual nuclear
stress test is exposing you to more radiation. A CT Angiogram, if done
with up-to-date equipment and dose reduction protocols, can be
done as low as 2-7 millisieverts and can accurately rule out coronary
blockages. As for an invasive angiogram, that might be called for, if an
intervention
is being considered. We assume you've already had an invasive angiogram
in the past, which is how you know your LAD stents are blocked. Have
you had an interventional cardiologist (the doctors who perform stenting)
look
at
that angiogram? A blocked stent CAN be reopened (with a balloon or sometimes another stent is
placed inside) -- you might want to have an interventionist
who specializes in total occlusions take a look. And check out our Forum
Topic on "InStent
Restenosis".
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 23, 2010
I have a history of heart disease in the family,
and have had hypertension for years. I am 50 yrs of age, I have three
stents in my arteries, two in the LAD which have completely reblocked,
and one
in the RCA which apparently is critical to my survival. I've had to be
aggressive with my cardiologist to get a Nuclear Stress Test, which they
call cardio-lite, every year. Apparently, my heart has grown collateral
arteries to get around the blockage in the LAD. Should I be pushing for
a CT slice angiogram, or even an invasive procedure? My understanding
is that if that RCA blocks up like the other stents did, I won't survive
the
heart
attack.
Patrick, Orange, California, USA, April 14, 2010
Cheryl -- the choices for tests would be (1) a
nuclear stress test (e.g. Cardiolite), (2) a CT angiogram (a more extensive
CT test than the Calcium scoring) or (3) a standard invasive angiogram
(arteriogram) which takes place in the cath lab. There is much debate over
whether option 1 or 2 is the best. The CT angiogram is more accurate, some
feel, in intermediate patients -- it actually shows an image of the heart
and arteries -- and can safely rule out if there are any blockages. The
nuclear stress test can't really do that as accurately, but it does show
other info. Read more about all these tests in our Patient
Guide to Heart Tests.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 25, 2010
I'm 51 white female with a history of high blood
pressure and a family history of heart disease just had a ct calcium
scan my score was 184.5 was told that I'm in the moderate calcification
I'm
really unsure as to what this means . i have been having some chest discomfort
and pain and back tightness in jaw , but it comes and goes, mostly when
my b/p is up can you give me some help on what my next step should be.
my dr. wanted me to have a arteriogram done but decided on the ct scan
instead.
Cheryl, Rossville ,Georgia, USA, March 16, 2010
i had a 64 slice ct scan and continued on to cardio
cath
Dan Grifo, Valrico, Florida, USA, March 3, 2010
Thank you for your
response. I went ahead with
the CT scan and it has been some of the best money I have ever spent. The
test showed minimal amounts of calcium deposits, with no need for invasive
treatment. My regular cardiologist agreed that the stress test was a false
positive. Man am I a happy camper!!
Ken Wright, Fullerton, California, USA, February 17, 2010
Kelly -- A CT Angiogram can reveal if there are
blockages in the coronary arteries. If it shows none, then it's 99% accurate
that
there is no coronary artery disease. The test is noninvasive but does use
radiation and some contrast dye (same kind used in an invasive angiogram).
If a CT is going to be done, make sure the physicians are using low-radiation
dose protocols. Read our
articles
about
this issue
in the Imaging and Diagnosis
Center.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 2, 2010
My husband is on a business trip in the Philippines
and is having chest pains. Hospital did EKG and blood tests and all came
back normal. Felt better after taking something for GERD. Doctor now
wants to do a CT angiogram. We're wondering if it is necessary to expose
to radiation
when other tests came back OK and he is feeling better? He is also worried
about blood clots since he's been doing a lot of flying. They did an
ultrasound of his legs and found no clot there. Would this test be able
to determine
if he has a blood clot elsewhere in his body? From what I've read, it
doesn't look like it would, but just not
sure.
Kelly, New Jersey, USA, February 2, 2010
Sorry to hear. This topic concerns CT Angiograms
which are somewhat different from the type you're discussing. I would certainly
discuss your concerns with the radiologists at the hospital.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 29, 2009
My 20-year-old daughter had a PE (Aug. 2009)
and has had 10 CT scans since. Now with the current reports, I'm concerned.
She is experiencing hair loss, fatigue, and nausea. Is there anything
that we can do at this point? What are her chances of getting cancer? To
what
cancers is she now more susceptible? If she was your daughter, what would
you do?
Alison F., El Paso, Texas, USA, December 27, 2009
Vijay -- you can gain a lot of information by
reading our articles and interviews
about
CT Angiography in the
Imaging
and Diagnosis Center.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 15, 2009
Hello Am 45, male. Quit smoking 16 years back.
My father had a heart attack about 14 years back and a subsequent bypass
surgery. He's 79 years old now and doing fine. I had borderline cholesterol
and my cardiologist recommended Atorvastatin 3 years back and have been
on a single 10mg daily dose. LDL is under control. I experience an occasional
shortness of breath and tightness. Sometimes while climbing stairs and
sometimes even without much physical exertion. Am considering a 64 slice
CT angio to rule out any blockage. Any advice?
Vijay, Dubai, UAE, December 12, 2009
Allergy to shellfish does not necessarily mean
allery to iodine. But if you are, there are dyes that do not contain iodine.
Be sure to discuss this with the physicians and technologists who perform
the tests.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 25, 2009
If I am allergic to shell fish i.e., oysters,
lobsters, crabs -- I throw up and also faint -- am I allergic to iodine?
If so, is there a non-iodine dye that can be used in a cardiac CT Angiogram?
If not, it the Cardiac Calcium CT
Scan the best option?
Donna, Toronto, Canada, November 23, 2009
Ken -- yes and no.
the CT angiogram can show the presence of a blockage and information about
where it is and how severe
it is. However, if intervention is contemplated, cardiologists will want
a standard invasive angiogram first. So CT Angiograms are best for patients
where the results of previous tests are unclear, and there is the distinct
possibility of no disease. Whether or not to do bypass or stenting is a
decision that should be made after seeing a complete angiogram of both
sides of the heart and discussing the pros and cons of each approach.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 22, 2009
I am 56 and recently had a nuclear stress test
due to family history and high blood pressure. The doctor said that though
the test did not show obvious blockage, that my heart efficiency went
down during exercise. He wanted me to go in for a cardiac catheterization
and
said that if the test showed total blockage I would stay in the hospital
for a bypass. My question is: does the 64 slice scan give you enough
information to gauge the possibility of a bypass versus stent placement?
If I need
a bypass, I need a little time to try and set things up with my business
for an extended leave. I really don't want to go in the hospital expecting
maybe a stent or 2 and have to stay for a bypass.
Ken Wright, Fullerton California, USA, November 17, 2009
Dave -- Kaiser is right that if you are already
at medium to high risk, the CT Angiogram probably isn't the best test.
An invasive angiogram in the cath lab would show specific blockages more
clearly, but that's an invasive test. The usual approach is that if you
are symptomatic (you have chest pains, etc.) you should be tested. And
they are probably referring to the COURAGE Trial that showed no difference
in mortality or heart attack for patients with stable angina -- whether
they got stents or "optimal medical therapy". Statins, of course, are an
important component of that therapy, so the results of COURAGE apply
less to you than others. And if blockages are found in an angiogram, are
they significant (read our article on the FAME
study) -- not all blockages
need treatment.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 10, 2009
I'm white male 54 reasonable health. Run, ride
and swim 3-5 times wk my whole life. Dad and Uncle died at 52 of heart
attacks. Brother 53 just had severe one. I am allergic to statins. Am
taking some Niacin. My healthcare provider Kaiser balked at request for
64 slice
angio and/or a calcium test. Said they already know I'm medium to high
risk. Want to monitor my cholesterol for now. Told me there is a study
that says stents as a preventative measure aren't that effective in reducing
heart attacks.. Should I push them for a more aggressive approach to
analysis and/or seek outside scan. And then what? What if I have blockages
do I
push Kaiser for stents or something else. I have kids at home and a business
and I want to be around to play with grandkids some day, not like my
dad and uncle. ThanksDad2Five
Dave M., San Diego, California, USA, November 4, 2009
I had a CT scan last month...Why? I don't know..I
am experiencing no symptoms whatsoever.. I had a Thallium scan October
2008-indicating no blockages!!!! My
Thallium scan-2007 showed no blockages!!! The ECHO did show a small calcium ring
at the atrial valve (I'm 75!)....MY Cardiologist now insists on an angiogram
and a stent!!!!..I got a 2nd opinion in Buffalo..The cardiologist there
suggested
that since I am Asymptomatic-to maintain my current beta blocker, diet and nutrition
regimen,,The possible danger of an angiogram-with no cardiac symptoms "doesn't
make sense,,,isn't worth the negative possibilities"I will appreciate your wanting
to dive into this one---but Both my Buffalo cardiologist and I are suspicious....Further..
I had,,am still having an allergic reaction to the iodine injection...I was never
informed of the related shellfish connection...Gradually, I am reducing the 2x
per day of Benadryl -- Seemingly Healthy in Henderson, Nevada.,Charles
F. Carpenter ,age 75
Charles F. Carpenter, retired-Erie County Government, Henderson, Nevada, October
19, 2009
I am only 30 years old but I have crippling chest
pain all the time and it gets worse with exercise, I have had a negative
stress test, negative echo, no tropin elevation markers, cholesterol
is 125, 15 negative EKGs while having severe bouts and a negative CTA but
I'm not sure what to do next can anyone give me any help because I have
seen 15 cardiologists and they keep telling me its in my head but I'm
still
in constant pain what is wrong with me??
Ciaran, Northern Ireland, September 4, 2009
Arnie -- an invasive angiogram is not something
recommended unless the patient is symptomatic and is at a risk
level that would make the risk of the angiogram worth it. Same thing
with a CT angiogram,
except that the risk level of the procedure is lower. Although
it
is noninvasive, the imaging experts we've interviewed do not recommend
a
CT angiogram
as a
screening
test for low risk asymptomatic patients, due to the radiation,
cost, etc. However, many do think that a Calcium Scoring exam can be
used this way.
It is done
either
with
an
Electron
Beam
Scanner or a Multislice CT. The radiation is lower than a CT
angiogram and it shows Calcium build-up in the arteries. It is completely
non-invasive
and, while not covered by many insurers, it is not expensive
(in
NYC it is possible to get one from a major hospital-based imaging center
for $100). It
has been shown to be a good predictor of coronary artery disease.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 10, 2009
I am a 47yr old male in good shape who has been
on Zocor for four years with good results. I have strong family history
of heart disease (father had 2 attacks in early 50s). To put my mind
at rest, I'd like to have either a heart CT or Angiography scan. Trying
to
figure out a way for my insurance company to pay for it.... Any recommendation
on which I should push for? Dos and don'ts?
Advice?
Arnie L., Oregon, USA, August 5, 2009
Kevin in Florida -- you're
absolutely correct!All major manufacturers now have low-dose options available.
And it's not just
the CT unit, but various techniques and protocols that are used by the
technicians. Of course, they need to be trained in these. As quoted in
our February
2009 article about low-dose CT, Dr. Michael Poon, past president
of the Society of Cardiovascular Computed Tomography
(SCCT)
and Director of the Center of Advanced Cardiac Imaging at Stony Brook University
Medical Center, stated:
The patient
has to request this. Patients may read about this, may see the headlines,
and then they need to go back and ask the imaging center, 'What method are
you using to lower the dose?' And if they don't know what you're talking
about, I
would say, 'See you later!'
Thanks for the posting. This is a very important
point for all patients to know about!
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org,
July 23, 2009
Recently had the 64 slice angiogram due to intermittent
pain in chest. Fortunately, CD said test was normal. For those with radiation
concerns I was
told by technicians there is a "low dose" option on the new machines (2 months
old-GE). FYI for those who may want to inquire about the machine that does their
testing.
Kevin, Florida, USA, June 27, 2009
Bryan -- CT angiograms are less accurate when
there is a large amount of calcium, which can cause artifacts making it
hard to judge. This may be why your cardiologist is tending towards the
catheterization. Also there are low-dose options for doing CT angiograms.
Although, as you state, other than shortness of breath, you're not experiencing
symptoms. The question, as always, is how will the results of a test change
your treatment?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 4, 2009
I am a 55 year old male. A-fib in 2002 is under
control with amiodorone and coumadin. Cholesterol is 154 while taking
10mg Lipitor. LDL is 95, HDL is 34. Blood pressure under control with Atacand.
Normal nuclear stress text 5 years ago. Never any chest pain or other
symptoms
but have SOB when walking up stairs. Changed cardiologists last week.
He did a complimentary Calcium CT Scan which scored 500. He suggested either
a CT Angiogram or a catheterization. I felt he preferred the catheterization
but left the decision up to me. Question: With such a high calcium score
would you recommend forgoing the CTA and having the cath? Insurance coverage
is not the issue as I am prepared to pay even if the insurance does not
cover the CTA. But I don't want to have the CTA if I will have to eventually
undergo a cath, particularly considering the radiation exposure. Thank
you
Bryan, Tennessee, USA, April 28, 2009
John B -- your experience points up that multislice
CT angios are helpful in several ways. While the standard invasive angiogram
is more accurate in terms of defining any positive results and the extent
of disease, CT is extremely accurate in ruling out disease. In other words,
if a CT angiogram shows NO disease, you don't have any. If it shows disease,
then you would go to a standard invasive angiogram to find out more, and
possibly treat the blockage(s) with medical therapy, angioplasty or bypass.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 25, 2009
This is more or less an FYI for those folks that
are reacting to results from 64 slice and echo stress tests. Approx 1
1/2 months ago I started experiencing shortness of breath with/without
physical
exertion. I am 50 yr male smoker, with family history of heart disease.
Father and paternal Gfather died sudden death coronary occlusion at 59
yr. Went to primary care doc who suspected early lung issues. chest xray
and several breathing tests were okay no mass or severe issues. Sent
me to Cardiologist for echo stress test which came up abnormal after exercise.
Heart rhythm and EKG fine, just looked like left ventricle was not adjusting
after exercise, a sign of possible blockage. He wanted me in for fast
angiogram.
I instead went to another cardiologist for 2nd opinion (more recognized
university hospital wit excellent rep) . He was less concerned and said
this area of heart was known for false positives in this test. He had
me go in for CT 64 slice angio. Results showed no narrowing of arteries
however,
50% calcification in LMCA. He recommended immediate invasive angiogram.
Needless to say after two weeks of this I was convinced I was headed
for bypass. Stenting not an option in almost all cases with 50% or more
stenosis
in LMCA. In fact, stenting in LCMA almost never an option. Bottom line
in for angiogram yesterday, results were excellent considering. LMCA
less than 10% calcification, no blockage, all arteries showed no more than
20-30%
calcification. Point here is two-fold. The good side is it scared me
enough to wake-up and change my lifestyle. I consider this a blessed second
chance
THAT I will not ignore. Secondly, don't fear results too much from anything
beyond regular angiogram. While these other tests have proved their worth
and I am not about to challenge this, the absolute gold standard is the
cath angiogram. Before anyone is ready to throw in the towel, wait for
this test,
it will tell you one way or another.
John B, Kansas City, Kansas, USA, April 21, 2009
Reply to Mr rsva, Annandale, Virginia, April
19, 2009 post: In my opinion you should take your Dr's advice, and your
symptoms most likely are due to the GERD, but since there is a documentation
of a 40-50% Mid LAD stenosis in a CT Coronary angiogram, and most importantly
you are worried, a Stress Myocardial perfusion test - using Tetrofosmine
or a Stress Myocardial PET study - with N13 ammonia, is a definitive indicator.
The % of a stenosis does not truly mean that there is a significant disease,
but if functional studies like these mentioned also point towards a documented
fact that there is a significant reversibility, then your worry might be
justified. Well in any case given the circumstances the chances are remote,
and a simpler test called a stress echocardiography also will give you
the information. If this is really bothering you you could discuss these
with your doctor, and he might suggest a best option scenario. If you CT
was absolutely normal - then the negative predictive value would have been
great but since it is not - a myocardial perfusion scan result of less
than 8% reversibility, no dilatation, and no increased lung uptake between
your stress test and rest imaging would confirm/ or mean a less than 2
% chance of you having an event in the next 2 years. others wise studies
have shown us that good diet with risk factor control and statins and aspirin
+/- other drugs have effectively reduced the stenosis burden (%) in time.
so rest assured and discuss with your doctor.
www.medlinkseecp.com
Dr Ajith Joy K, Medlinks Cardiocare Pvt Ltd, , Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala
, India, April 21, 2009
I am a 38 year old male with a history of elevated
cholesterol (220). Was a smoker over 10 years ago. Recently had a 64
slice that indicated a 40 to
50 % stenosis (mixed plaque) in the mid LAD segment. All other arteries were
normal. I am on a statin and take a low dose Ca Channel blocker (Diltiazem
120 mg). However, I still continue to experience chest tightness. I am
physically
active (run 5-6 miles a day, 5 times a week). My doctor suggests that the
statin therapy with yearly monitoring is sufficient, but the symptoms are
worrisome.
I do have GERD too and most episodes of chest tightness occur after I drink
coffee, however the results of the 64 slice always make me wonder if
I need to run to
the ER when I have the episodes of frequent chest tightness. I would appreciate
any
comments and suggestions.
rsva, Annandale, Virginia, April 19, 2009
Reply to Forum editor's
posting. Thanks for advice
on OMT. I did a CT scan because I had some persistent chest muscle pain
on my left side after waking up and a few incidents of what I thought was
arrhythmic heart-beat. Also a couple of my sedentary life-style friends
died of heart-attack which gave me a big scare. No family history of heart-attacks
only diabetes. No recent arrhythmic heart-beat. Chest muscle pull better
when I sleep more on my right side and eased up on the chest press poundage
at the gym. Regard.
David T., Vietnam, April 19, 2009
Olga -- there is a lot of information about the
different tests in our Imaging
and Diagnosis Center. Have you had any tests as of yet?? As for radiation,
you're certainly asking the right question -- we are a bit surprised that
you haven't gotten a clear answer. Be aware that a nuclear stress test
has as much if not more radiation than a standard CT scan, although many
of the physicians we've interviewed are doing CTs at very
low doses. We
can't really recommend a specific facility -- we do know that the program
directors
of ISET, the
big annual
interventional meeting in Florida, are with Baptist Cardiac and
Vascular
Institute
of Miami. A training symposium on Cardiac CT is part of that meeting, so
that might be a place to start. Good luck and let us know what you find
out.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 16, 2009
My cardiologist wants me to have a 64 slice ct
of the coronaries. I don't want to because of the amount of radiation i
have had in the past (I'm 44 yrs
old). Does a cardiac MRI show blockage in the coronaries? Can a stress echo also
demonstrate coronary blockage? I am finding that every facility that I call to
see if they are using radiation reduction techniques for cardiac ct can't give
me a straight answer. I am speaking with the technicians who directly do the
exams. How and from who can I get the answer that I need. I live in South Florida,
if
you know of a facility that has these methods in place, please let me know.
Olga, Florida, USA, April 15, 2009
David -- a 20-30% lesion is below the threshold
for an intervention -- it's certainly not considered obstructive. You're
an ideal candidate for reducing your risk factors by modifying your lifestyle
(diet, exercise, smoking cessation, etc.) and medical therapy to keep cholesterol
down. As for fenofibrate supplement, we always urge patients to work along
with their cardiologist in terms of any medications, both prescrption and
over-the-counter, as well as lifestyle changes. All these things together
are what is called OMT, or Optimal Medical Therapy. By the way, why did
you get the CT angiogram in the first place: symptoms? family history?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 15, 2009
I am 48 yrs old Chinese male of reasonable health
with relatively high BMI 27, high lipids and Type 2 diabetes. Did a CTA
64slice MSCT aquilion coronary
angiography. Radiologist concluded I had "a 20-30% lesion of the Prox LAD/stenosis
of LAD 1 by mixed plaque. Diagonal branches no stenosis noted". Report also said
all other areas " no plaque detected, no stenosis". I would like to know how
serious is the above stenosis of LAD 1 and what I can do to mitigate it
apart from diet, exercise. Doctor has put me on 20mg Lipitor statin theraphy
for time
being. is it advisable to supplement with fenofibrate
as well. Thank you.
David T, Vietnam, April 14, 2009
I'm 77 yo female in reasonably good physical
condition (sportive) but bad family history. After 3 years of SOB with
exertion, upper shoulder and throat pain when chilled and 3 negative
Nuclear Stress tests, my cardiologist finally ordered the CT Angiogram.
It reflected
blockage (circumflex) and with Catheterization showed 90%. Stent implanted
and symptoms relieved for most part. Question is why the CTA not done
first since Nuclear stress practically equivalent for radiation and definitely
not as diagnostic? Sign me 'a crusty old broad with lifetime in Medicine'
still In pursuit of excellence for my field.
Patsy Ray, Kinderhook, New York, USA, February 3, 2009
Golam -- Results of major studies of CT angiograms
is that they are 98-99% accurate in negative predictability (ruling out
coronary
artery disease). In other words if the CTA shows no disease, you don't
have any.
This must be modified by certain clinical conditions, such as high calcium that
may block the image and make it less reliable. Also, of course, the CTA
needs to be done well by an expert. This is why we (or anyone
other than a cardiologist trained in reading CTAs) cannot give you advice
on this matter. Nothing in this email or on our site should be taken as
a substitute for medical advice. Use this information to discuss the situation
with your doctor, but your doctor is always the best source of advice.
We can say, however, that most CTA experts feel it is
more accurate than a nuclear stress test -- which tends to be less accurate
in women. We urge you to
read over our section on Imaging,
including the many interviews with experts. We also suggest that you
consult a cardiologist who is expert
in reading
a CTA. Again, CTAs are very reliable when done in the proper patients
and by a cardiologist or radiologist trained in CTA. While their positive
predictability
is perhaps not yet as great as a standard catheter-based angiogram, its
negative predictability (ability to rule out disease) is 98-99% in all
major studies done.
Let us know how things progress.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 11, 2008
How reliable is a 64-slice CT Angiogram in comparison
to a catheter to determine blockages in the heart? Cardiologists in Bangladesh
and India seem to prefer the catheter and suggest that a CT Angiogram
can only reveal 80% of the heart's condition. My wife, aged 40, weight,
100
Kg, tested positive in a stress test known in Bangladesh as CTT. Her
cardiologist instantly diagnosed her as having provocated ischemia and
suggested that
a catheter be done immediately. Later, I took my wife to India where
a CT Angiogram showed that she had no blockages. In spite of the finding,
the Indian cardiologist also said that a CT Angiogram is only partially
reliable. Thanks.
Golam Sarwar Chowdhury, British Council, Dhaka, Bangladesh, August 11, 2008
Joann -- a CT angiogram performed by a
cardiologist or radiologist experienced in this imaging mode, along with
a 0 Calcium score, is pretty strong evidence against any coronary blockages
(CTAs have been shown to have a 99% negative predictability for CAD). Additionally,
nuclear stress tests are known for false positives, especially in women. We
certainly aren't arguing against your cardiologist's opinion, however.
What was his reaction to your 64CT??
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 2, 2008
in 03/07 I went to a cardiologist to ask about
the medication (Flecainide) I was taking for paroxysmal SVT. My EKG showed
sinus rhythm with 1st degree AV block. He gave me a nuclear stress test
and it came back positive. He said it showed moderate filling in LAD.
He scheduled a catheterization. I opted for a 64CT scan at another location
(did not realize there were any in my area nor was I offered a choice).
It came back normal with a 0 calcium count. Can I trust the results and
could the first test have been a false positive? 15 mos. and I still
worry.
Joann, Tampa, Florida, USA, June 27, 2008
I live in South Carolina and would like to get
scanned with a 256 slice machine for better accuracy. What is the nearest
facility that has one of these and how much does it cost as my insurance
will not pay it. Thanks.
J.B., South Carolina, USA, June 17, 2008
Michael -- we are not doctors so can't advise
you, other than to say that a PET scan is not the same as MSCT. A PET scan
is a functional test -- it uses radioistopes to measure the perfusion,
or blood flow, in your coronary arteries. An MSCT or Cardiac CT scan shows
an actual image of your heart and arteries. Although you already had a
standard invasive angiogram which does the same as a Cardiac CT, only more
accurately -- so there'd be no reason to get a CT. But since you're a left
dominant, and those arteries are still open, that's good, and your doctors
may be saying that the risk of doing an angioplasty on the right outweighs
the relatively small benefit you'd receive.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 17, 2008
Question to the Doctor.
I am 65 yrs old. Had quintuple bypass 21 years ago. Since then under regular
Cardiologist's care - medication for Cholesterol ,ACE Inhibitor, ASA
, Niaspan to raise HDL , B12 / folic acid suppliment daily to lower high
Homocystyne , excellent heart patient dietary habits , regular exercise
at the Y ( tred mill , weights etc). Then started with some symptoms
again while exercising 2 years ago. Had Angiogram which showed original
bypass of RCA had totally occluded ( disappeared ) and the RCA blockage
was now twice as extensive. Bypasses on CX ( now original blockageis
twice as extensive ), LAD , OM , still " widely patent ( open).
Bottom line - Cardiologist said I still had excellent blood flow on left
side , with 70% result of MUGA test. Said blockages were too extensive
and dangerous to perform Plasty for a stent - so staying with lifestyle
and meds described above.
I went to Ottawa Heart Institute for a PET Coronary Scan to dble check
the Angiogram results and obtain a second opinion. Dr. said there wasn't
a surgeon in Canada that would touch my blockages.
So far still only getting symptoms after about 10 - 15 minutes on tred
mill. And keeping my fingers crossed !
Can you tell me if the PET Scan is the same procedure as the MSCT . If
not , do you think I would benefit and is it available in Ontario?
Thank you.
Michael Higgins, Mississauga , Ontario , Canada, June
16, 2008
Thomas -- we can't give medical advice and you
should ask your doctor these questions. The first condition you probably
saw is interstitial pneumonitis which is a disease of the lungs. The second
is a diseased aorta, with fatty deposits. A cardiac CT scan would yield
infomation on both conditions, even though the
first is not a cardiac disease, but the CT scan covers the upper chest.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 14, 2008
During a recent medical treatment followed by
a continuous cough, I had undergone an x ray and in the result it was written
as Intestitious Pnemonitus and Arithromities Aorta. On consultation doctor
adviced for CT Angeogram. Is it really required ? Last 10 years I am taking
Omeprasole capsule for Hayatus Hernia. Please advice.
Thomas, India, June 11, 2008
The 64 slice scanner calcium score may be a slightly
higher radiation dose -- but this varies among the difference units and
also the operators.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 6, 2008
What is the difference in radiation for just
getting a calcium score on a 64 slice scanner vs. an ebt scanner?
EK, Pennsylvania, USA, June 2, 2008
Joe -- read below about CT Calcium scoring, which
is much lower radiation than a CTA. Whether this is appropriate is something
your cardiologist and you should discuss. As you said, you are asymptomatic,
so you have to ask, "How will a test affect my therapy?" If you
do go for a CTA, inquire if reduced dose techniques are being used.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 17, 2008
I am a 65 year old caucasian male, weight 144,
height 5'7". A calcification was found in my LAD during a CT scan for broken
ribs in January. A CTA has since been recommended. I have a strong family
history of CAD, but have never had symptoms or problems and have never
smoked. I am on Lipitor 20 and Lisinopril 5, fish oil supplements, and
.81 aspirin daily. My LDL Choles. is 48.2; HDL is 68.6. I run 20 miles/wk
and lift weights 3 times/wk. Because I've already had 4 chest x-rays and
a CT scan in 2008, I'm concerned about the added radiation from a CTA.
Since I'm asymptomatic, I wonder about the appropriateness of a CTA in
my
case. What would be a reasonable course of action for me to take?
Joe S., New York, USA, May 16, 2008
A.R. -- last question first. 1760 Mgy.cm roughly
translates to 30 msv. This is almost exactly twice what a non-gated 64
slice CT angiogram would be -- non-gated means not using any of the
currently-available gating dose reduction techniques (offered in one form
or another by all the manufacturers). To arrive at this, we used a conversion
figure from an April
2006 article in the Canadian Association of Radiology Journal. We're
curious what your PCP had to say about this. A scan for a Calcium
CT score only, which you say is what his prescription was, is
very low -- low enough that a number of prominent imaging cardiologists
have been recommending it as a general screening tool (see our interview
with Dr. Harvey Hecht). A note here is that Toshiba recently introduced
a new 320-slice scanner which actually uses less radiation, because it
is able to get the entire heart (and chest) in a single rotation.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 8, 2008
Around February of this year I had a ct heartscan,
my pcp referral was for one heartscan for calcium score due to my chest
pain and a abnormal cholesterol level, the facility I went for the scan
took a two separate scans, whole chest area and the heart, I believe
they subjected me to unnecessary radiation exposure by two scans, If i
have
been informed of the procedure and the exposure of radiation level I
would have refused to take the scan, I am clearly convinced that their
financial
interest was primary than the patient care, however the calcium score
was zero, and I had normal ct of the chest, that was a toshiba 64 multislice
ct scan, due to this exposure I am concerned about the risk of developing
lung cancer, and I feel somewhat uncomfortable in my chest region and
weak
since then, the radiologist said the dose I had was 1760 mgy-cm (what
is this will be in mrem or msv?) Is my concern well founded? Thanks for
your
any advice!!
A.R., Chevy Chase, Maryland, USA, May 8, 2008
Cat and Kathy -- the radiation from a CT angiogram
is roughly comparable, or slightly less than that from a nuclear stress
test. Some techniques are now being used that bring the dose even lower.
If you read our latest interview
with Dr. Harvey Hecht of Lenox Hill Hospital
in NYC, you'll find that he (and a growing number of imaging experts) feel
that the CT angiogram will replace the nuclear stress test as the definitive
diagnostic test for coronary artery disease. Kathy, your situation, like
Kotra from India, is typical. A nuclear stress test showed positive, so
he gave you a CT which showed that the nuclear stress test was a false
positive. Dr. Hecht would probably ask, "Why give the nuclear stress test
at all? We've learned nothing that the CT wouldn't have shown and we've
exposed the patient to more radiation." He would start with a CT angiogram
and if blockages are shown, proceed to a catheterization with possible
angioplasty. Studies have shown that if the CT angiogram finds no disease,
then you don't have any. The negative predictability of CT is 99%. A cath
is more invasive and carries a small risk, but about 3% of complications,
usually at the catheter site (bleeding, nerve trauma, etc.). Cat -- your
decision to get the CT (instead of another nuclear stress test) is a valid
one. Kathy -- your doctor was correct to send you for a CT instead of a
cath, but soon he and others will hopefully be skipping the nuclear stress
test altogether, except in certain specific situations.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 22, 2008
I am a 49 year-old woman who had two stents in
my LAD after a 90% blockage was found five years ago. I have recently
been having consistent chest pain when exercising. I am generally able
to continue
on the treadmill despite the pain, and it stops immediately after I stop
the exercise. Because of this symptom and my concern, I am going to get
a CT angiogram. Does this sound like the right decision? A stress echo
six months ago was fine. In addition to the original angioplasty, I have
had three thallium stress tests (none in the last 3 years), so am concerned
about radiation. But not knowing what's causing my pain is driving me
nuts, so it seems like the thing to do. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Cat, New York City, USA, April 18, 2008
Female, 47...I just had a 64 slice cardiac cat
scan because my nuclear stress test came back abnormal. The doctor said
it showed a blockage and that
I should go for the scan because the alternative was too invasive. I am healthy,
thin and don't smoke and have occasional drinks so I was surprised. Doctor
said he thought it was a false positive but to go to double check. It came
back all
clear thank God. I was really concerned about the radiation and spoke to the
doctor about my concerns and he said the alternative, cardiac cath, was too
invasive but I still worry about the cumulative effect the two tests will
have on me.
I felt like I had no alternatives. Although relieved I am so worried about
the radiation. Did I have any other alternatives? How bad is the radiation
from these
tests?
Kathy P., New York, USA, April 14, 2008
Kotra -- lots of questions here, but the picture
that's been painted is that you have mild multivessel coronary
artery disease and that your doctor has decided to manage
you, for the time being anyway, with medication (a statin to lower cholesterol,
clopidogrel to prevent blood clot formation, and a beta blocker for blood
pressure and angina). You didn't mention whether
you were having symptoms, like
angina
when exercising,
but given that the CT showed no severe blockage, he's following "best practice
guidelines". You have risk factors -- and you should lower any under
your control (diet, exercise, smoking, etc.). Your Calcium Scoreof 103
is bordering the mild to moderate disease category. You can't really get
rid of plaque (although intense statin therapy has shown small reductions).
But you can slow the progress of the disease. Calcified plaque is hard
and usually older. LAD = Left Anterior Descending artery, the main artery
on the left side of the heart. LCX = Left Circumflex artery which branches
off of the LAD. RCA = Right Coronary Artery the only artery on the right
side. You should always discuss your other medications with your cardiologist.
It's very good that you caught this condition before severe blockages developed,
possibly causing a heart attack. Hope this helps.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 11, 2008
Recently I had a CT Coronary Angiogram
after a stress test result was positive. The findings of CT Coronary Angiogram
is: "a) CALCIUM SCORE :103 B) RIGHT DOMINANT CIRCULATION C) LAD: Ostium,
proximal and mid segment shows mixed plaque with mild narrowing. Distal
segment is normal D) LCX: Ostium and proximal segment shows mixed plaque
with mild narrowing. E) RCA: Ostium shows calcified plaque with mild narrowing.
Proximal segment shows mixed plaque with mild narrowing. f) COMMENTS: Mild
multivessel CAD" My cardiologist has prescribed the
following drugs: 1) Atorvastatin Calcium 20 mg daily one tablet 2) Clopidogrel
75mg daily one tablet 3) Metoprolol Succinate 25 mg daily one tablet. Review
after 3 months. I shall be glad if you will please advise: a) What is the
risk factor in this case? b) Is the calcium score normal? c) Is there any
chance of getting rid of the plaque with the above medication? d) the difference
with mixed plaque and calcified plaque? e) What are these LAD, LCX, RCA?
f) Some 6 months back I have undergone bone density test and am diagnosed
as "Ostiopanea" and I am using Calcitriol .25mcg one tablet per day. May
continue with this Calcitriol in addition to the medication given by the
cardiologist? Kindly clarify.
KOTRA RAMA MURTHY, SBI, HYDERABAD, INDIA, April 7, 2008
Howard -- the CT is showing something. It may
be an artifact, but a growing number of cardiologists feel that standard
angiography is not necessarily the "gold standard". Read our
current interviews with imaging experts Dr.
Harvey Hecht and Dr.
John Hodgson for some in depth
information about areas where angiography may not tell the whole story.
Did your cardiologist use intravascular ultrasound (IVUS) -- an imaging
technology which directly images the interior of the artery? Dr. Hecht
discusses your exact situation where a CT shows something, but angiography
does not, -- in his opinion, in such a case, especially where
there are symptoms, IVUS or FFR (a pressure measurement) should be
mandatory.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 1, 2008
I have had two separate 64 slice CT scans. The
first one in November 2007 found calcification in the LAD and a blockage
on the right side. I had a subsequent catheterization. During the procedure,
they put in six stents in the LAD. The CT scan identified a blockage
in the right artery but the MD claimed it was not there during the angiogram.
I was not feeling well after the procedure and in January 2008, I had
another
CT scan. I was told it was fine. However, yesterday I was told the same
blockage was found in the right artery. The MD claimed he ignored it
again because he did not see it during the angiogram. What is the reality
of
having two false positives show up in the same spot months apart? What
do I believe the MD's eyes or the CT scan?
Howard G., New York, USA, March 27, 2008
Officer Car -- the subject of your posting is
certainly in the news today. The chief issue covered in our article "Medicare
Reverses Decision to Limit Coverage of Cardiac CT Heart Scans" is
what tests insurers will pay for. You had symptoms of coronary artery disease
(CAD) while running, although those could be attributed to other causes
as well. So the question is how to test whether you have CAD or not? Interestingly
enough,
many cardiologists now think that multislice CT may replace many of the
nuclear stress tests now given. The nuclear tests actually carry an equal
or greater radiation dose than CT and they have a higher false positive/negative
rate. It's possible that the nuclear stress test might also have
shown nothing major. But CT is 99+% accurate in ruling out CAD. It's not
a test that estimates your possibility of CAD -- it's a direct visual look
at your arteries. If you have a blockage, you can see it! As for screening
people "off-the-street", none of the cardiac societies advocate screening
asymptomatic patients with
CT. But you were not asymptomatic. By the way, the very first angioplasty
patient, Mr. Adolph Bachmann of Zurich, Switzerland, was just about your
age when he was "ballooned". That was over 30 years ago. We just
attended a dinner with him last fall and he's still very active and happy!
Good
luck and keep in touch.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 13, 2008
Why did the old fashion stress test fail me????
I am a 39 year old state Trooper who runs 30 plus miles a week. I consider
myself a person who is in good shape an one that is familiar with his
body. About 6 months ago I started developing neck an shoulder pain while
running.
I advised my Doctor of this and he wrote me a script for a nuclear stress
test. My wonderful insurance Aetna Health Care declined the test stating
I didn't fit the criteria to qualify, but that they would pay for a regular
stress test. I took the stress test and passed it with flying colors.
I was still experiencing the same symptoms when running. Then one day a
co
worker
informed me that a CT test was being administered to law enforcement
personal near Atlantic City. Free. I took the test and found out I had
a 95% blockage
in my LAD. I now have three stents. Thanks, Aetna
Car, New Jersey, USA, March 13, 2008
Kotra -- the dual source CT is a technology that
has been developed by Siemens Medical to give a higher resolution image
by interfacing two different angles. It's one of the second (or third)
generation developments in CT angiography.
Other manufacturers have their own technological advances -- Toshiba
just showed a 320-slice system, GE and Philips have their own current innovations.
Most new state-of-the-art systems are going to be highly accurate, no
matter
which technology is used.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 11, 2008
Is there any difference between "64 Slice Single Source CT " and "Dual
Source CT" ?
Kindly advise.
KOTRA RAMA MURTHY, SBI, HYDERABAD, INDIA, March 9, 2008
Gomathi, The Forum Editor has replied to your
questions. There are a few additional points I would make - the primary
factor in heart disease is a family or genetic history of heart disease.
Smoking, even in adolescence is the next most important factor, before
diet and exercise, which are far less important. In talking about CT
scans and Angiograms, there is the resolution of the arterial measurements
to
be considered. Angiograms have about 0.1mm resolution, whereas CT scans
have at best about 0.3mm resolution. So measurements made by angiograms
are considerably more detailed and reliable. Finally, there is the issue
of x-ray dose. The chance of death due to the x-ray dose is about 1:2000
or thereabouts. Early model CT scanners gave a much higher dose than
the latest models that use faster scanning. The dose on these is more like
that in an angiogram. You should ask about the model of CT scanner and
dose. Finally there is the cost - CT scans are often a relatively expensive
way to image and measure the heart's arteries.
Hope this helps.
Jaques, Australia, February 14,
2008
Gomathi -- what besides curiousity
prompted your father to get the CT angiogram? Is there a family history
of heart disease? Guidelines state that anything less than 50% narrowing
should not be treated, other than medically or with lifestyle change. Sounds
like diet has been good. Exercise and correct weight is also important.
As well as making sure cholesterol levels, blood pressure, etc. are all
normal. You should discuss this, as well as the report, with a cardiologist
-- 30-40% narrowing may sound frightening, but the real question is whether
this narrowing is obstructing the blood flow. It's somewhat unknown what
the "normal" amount of narrowing is -- as people age, plaque
can build up, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're being impacted by
it. What
does your doctor say?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February12, 2008
Dear All, My father did not have any symptom
for chest pain. His health was in good condition, but we had a curiosity
to do a CT scan. So we did CT Coronary Angiogram and in the report we find
in the left Main "Discrete eccentric mixed plaque with positive remodeling
causing 30-40% Luminal Stenosis in" and Proximal: up to 40% luminal narrowing
at the ostium. Could you please let me know how serious is this and how
to proceed further on the treatment (Angioplasty or medicine) Note: No
smoking, No Drinking, Rarely Non Veg, No Oily foods and no coconut... in
food. In spite of all these we found 40% really depressed..... It would
be great if you can provide good suggestion. Thanks.
Gomathi, EDS, India, February 12, 2008
Jane -- visualizing stents with CT angiography
is tricky. The newer more sensitive 64 slice systems are pretty good, but
there are a lot of variables. What kind of problem with the stent did the
CTA show? As you can read in our special section on Intravascular
Ultrasound,
even invasive angiography (catheterization) can miss whether or not a stent
has been perfectly implanted. We're assuming, from your post, that you
are not covered by insurance, but a potential problem with a stent should
be dealth with. Perhaps you could talk to the doctors involved (the interventional
cardiologist who did
the
stent
and the
CT reader)
and
ask
them if they would agree to a quick consult at a reduced fee?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 5, 2008
I am a 53 year female. At 51 I had a cardiac catheterization after a myocardial
infarction. My LAD had eccentric stenosis of 60% in mid segment after diagonal
branch. The LAD was totally occluded distally with thrombus. AngioJet thrombectomy
on thrombus and distal LAD was successful, however I still continued to have
distal occlusion near the apex. A 2.5 x 23mm Cypher stent that wrapped around
the apex was deployed in order to establish a better distal flow. Recently my
regular doctor ordered a CTA. He told me that the doctor that read the CTA found
a problem with the stent. He made an appointment with me to see the doctor that
put the stent in during the catheterization. Because of financial problems I
am unable to afford the visit to see the doctor that put the stent in. Should
I be concerned about trying to get checked for this concern my regular doctor
told
me about after the results of the CTA?
Jane, Ohio, USA, December 29, 2007
I have had several coronary stent procedures
and am interested in assessing them for restenosis as I have had this
occur 2 yrs ago. I am interested in obtaining a ct angiogram. However I
have
some renal insufficiency (serum creatinine 1.8 and bun 29). If I decide
to obtain the ct study what would be your pre-study recommendations to
prevent contrast nephropathy i.e. acetylcysteine, etc., or should I forego
the ct study?
Harold, Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA, December 19, 2007
Craig -- your cardiologist is correct -- a high
Calcium Score by itself doesn't indicate coronary artery disease (CAD)
-- and most 16 slice CT scans don't have a high enough sensitivity to see
soft
or "vulnerable" plaque. What mutlislice, or 64-slice CT angiography
is excellent for is to rule out CAD, definitely. There is a consensus
statement that was authored by the major heart societies (AHA, ACC,
SCAI, SCCT). It took some time to put the guidelines together because unnecessary
testing is an area of concern for all. Additional radiation from the 64-slice
CT is also a concern, but it's a bit less than what you'd be getting from
a nuclear stress test and, with newer equipment and methods, it's far less. If
you read some of the interviews with imaging experts in our Imaging
and Diagnosis Center, you'll see one clear difference between stress
tests and a CT angiogram. The stress test is a functional test -- it shows
if the flow of oxygenated blood to the heart is less than optimal. It
shows a result, but not the cause. A CT angiogram is a direct view -- it
will show if there is are no blockages with 99% accuracy. We can't advise
you one way or the other. This is a conversation you should have with your
cardiologist and you should discuss the cost/benefit -- not forgetting
that putting your mind at ease would be a benefit. One caveat -- CT angiograms
are a bit less accurate when in the presence of a lot of calcium, which
acts as a shield.
And Krystal -- an infarct would mean that at some point
your husband had a heart attack and some of his heart muscle is damaged
-- your husband is very young for such a diagnosis.
EKGs
are
the
first line of testing and are by no means a test on which a firm diagnosis
can be made. But an abnormal EKG should
lead to additional testing. Discuss this with your doctor for sure.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 12, 2008
My Husband is 24 and has history of heart problems.
He recently had a EKG done and it is reading abnormal. He has several of
them and they are all abnormal. It reads Interior Infarct. I would like
to know what that means and
what I should do? Thanks.
Krystal, North Carolina, USA, November 9, 2007
52yr/M/asymptomatic/ My father had a triple bypass
in 1973 at 48 years age and lived another 30 years. My wife is also
a heart nurse. For that reason I had all the stress tests done three years
ago.
I am an amateur climber and do a great deal of exercise, mainly Stair
Master and hiking uphill with heavy loads, 40 to 65lbs. I am very fit.
My stress
test indicated no problems. I then asked the cardiologist about a calcium
scan, which at the time was an 8 or 16 slice. He laughed and said not
to get paranoid because I was fine. He said I simply could not do what
I did
on my nuclear stress test if I had any problems. I did the calcium
scan
anyway and scored about 260 which put me in the 90th percentile. My
blood work was good and my cholesterol was normal. Even so the cardiologist
put me on one baby aspirin per day and zocor. I have been on this regimen
for
three years. Now the Heart Hospital has the 64CT scanner and I am wondering
if someone who is asymptomatic but had a high calcium score should
get
the 64CT angio scan? My cardiologist told me hard calcium wasn't what
I should worry about. He said it was the soft plague that gets you in
trouble and the 16 slice didn't pick up soft plaque. What is the current
day
consensus
about an asymptomatic person who is very fit but has a high calcium
score, undergoing the more comprehensive
64CT angio tests?
Craig Blankenship, Edmond, Oklahoma, USA, November 8, 2007
Joan -- we are not in a position to either offer
medical advice or to second-guess the advice of a qualified MD. If
you are concerned about whether you should get a CT, you can browse through
the "Appropriateness
Guidelines for CT", authored by the American College of
Cardiology as a guide for when a Cardiac CT is indicated. You will
note a complex scoring system which measures the various trade-offs,
one of
which is the radiation dose
from a
typical
Cardiac
CT - roughly
equivalent
to what you would get from a standard invasive angiogram. One question
to ask your physician is how will the results of this test affect any
course of treatment?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, October 7, 2007
My doctor wants to do this as I have a family
history of early onset CAD. I am 54 and I have no symptoms or any other
risk factors. My CT heart scan 3 years ago was excellent--no calcium,
but he says I could still have soft plaque. An echo stress test was good.
VAP
test was pretty good. He'd like me to take plant sterols and fish oil
to get my LDL from 82 to the 70's, and to change the small dense LDL pattern.
I have tested negative for inflammation. What concerns me is the radiation,
the possible reaction or ramifications from the iodine dye and serious
(though rare) reactions to beta blockers. Thank you.
Joan D, Denver, Colorado, USA, October 3, 2007
Reimbursement for CTA is a big issue. It has changed
and will continue to change as more studies are published showing its accuracy.
The major cardiology associations have updated their guidelines
for use of CTA and the SCCT,
which specifically deals with CT, is active in advocating for increased
reimbursement. You might want to contact them directly. We're curious --
what was the result of the CTA??
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, October 3, 2007
I had a CTA three months after having a cardiac
catheterization and a stent placed in my anterior descending artery.
The need for the CTA was persistent angina following the placement of the
stent.
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan is refusing to pay for the $1800.
procedure (They categorize as investigational). BSBS would have paid for
another
cardiac catheterization that would have cost several thousand dollars
more! Any suggestions on how to get this paid, different
coding etc.?
Gary C., Michigan, USA, October 3,
2007
Vy -- you are correct. These is no femoral
or radial arterial puncture done in a CT Angiogram -- only an IV. But
definitely let your CT doctor know about your Coumadin prior to the appointment
in
case they have a specific protocol to follow.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, October 2, 2007
I am scheduled for a CT Angiogram due to a chronic
pulmonary embolism. I am on Coumadin for this condition. My hemotologist
thinks that this procedure would make it necessary to stop Coumadin for
a few days before the procedure
because "Any kind of angiogram involves an incision" IS this true? Isn't this
procedure done with a conventional vein IV?
Vy, California, USA, October 1, 2007
ST -- beautiful mountains! Wish we were there.
A CT Angiogram (64 slice) has been shown to be highly negative predictive
(99+%).
In other
words, if the CT shows no disease, you can pretty much trust it. It's
a bit less accurate in showing positives, because there can be false positives
due to a number of things -- although it's still pretty accurate, and
getting
moreso all the time.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 17, 2007
I am a 55 yo postmenopausal female who hikes vigorously in the back country
of Glacier National Park. My stress test yesterday yielded ST depression. I will
soon be undertaking a CTA. Is this the logical next step or what other possibilities
exist? How definitive is a CTA?
ST, Montana, USA, September 14, 2007
What is the upper permissible limit of radiation
a patient can receive in his/her lifetime? How many times in a year a
patient can be exposed to the radiation?
Amruta, Siemens, Bangalore, INDIA, September 11, 2007
Betty -- 64-slice CT actually uses a similar dye
to standard angiography -- Magnetic resonance does not. Although if you
might have renal insufficiency, make sure that gadolinium-based dye is
not used in your MR. There are non-iodine dyes and also precautionary protocols
to pre-treat people who are allergic to iodine-based contrast. We can't
recommend a hospital -- perhaps a query to the Society
for Cardiovascular Computed Tomography (SCCT) would help you find a qualified imaging center.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 14, 2007
I have hypertension that has become difficult
to control, my cardiologist wants me to have renal and cardiac catheterization.
I am allergic to iodine dye and was wondering if CT or MRI would be better
for me to have. I understand the 64-slice CT requires no dye. I live
in Arkansas and would also like to know the nearest hospital where I might
have this done. I can travel somewhere else if it is safer for me to
have.
Thank you, Betty Ellis
Betty Ellis, Newport, Arkansas , USA, August 12, 2007
Hi, I'm the proud new owner of a stent (1 week).
I'm 50 and had NO symptoms. I did a coronary calcium scan (had to pay $600
myself, as I am in the U.S. where insurance won't cover it) and discovered
significant calcium deposits in my LAD artery. I pushed my cardiologists
for more testing. My Manhattan cardiologist just gave me the conventional
stress test, which I passed with flying colors. I pressed for a nuclear
stress test which he balked at. Mind you I had: 1. Family history of heart
attacks, 2. Very low HDL score, 3. High tryglycerides, 4. and a coronary
calcium score very high for someone my age. NOT good enough for an insurance
company to pay for more testing! Finally switched to a new cardiologist
and just happened to develop chest pains that migrated to my arm, so mild
that I normally would have thought mild heart burn. But with the calcium
sore I decided to make a BIG deal about it. I got an angiogram. Sure enough-
80% blockage! Medicated stent put in place and I feel the improved circulation
already! What's the lesson? You have to be assertive and your own health
researcher. In the US the insurance companies would rather I have sudden
cardiac death. That way I cost them nothing. The doctors can be too intimidated
by the insurance companies to be your advocate. At least this was the case
with my Manhattan cardiologist. The cardio that prescribed the angiogram
seem really humbled when he saw the results.
John, Nyack, New York, August 4, 2007
Darlene -- the contrast dye used for a 64 slice
CT angiogram carries the same cautions as the dye used in a standard
invasive angiogram. However, there are dyes that are less toxic to the
kidneys --
and in some
cases, the dye can be diluted more than usual, but you need to have a very
good
imaging system to get the best resolution, whether you go CT or invasive.
It makes no sense to subject a patient to any test if the test is not going
to provide
the
proper
information.
Your situation is not uncommon, a significant percentage of patients with
coronary
blockages
also have
blockages in the renal artery, causing kidney dysfunction -- and vice-versa.
Cardiologists who do these procedures have a number of protocols in place
to protect the kidney (keeping the patient super-hydrated, etc.). Your
nephrologist should discuss these issues with your husband's interventional
cardiologist
to
make sure
every protocol is followed. The CT angiogram is definitely less-invasive
and may be the appropriate test if your husband is in that grey "indeterminant" area.
However, this is a decision that needs to be made by you with both of
your doctors. If there's a good chance your husband is going to need
an invasive angiogram anyway (or angioplasty/stent) then it would be best
to go right to that test and lessen both the contrast dye and radiation
exposure.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 22, 2007
My husband , age 72, is diabetic with some kidney
impairment. His cardiologist wants to perform an angiogram because of his
stress test results but is leaving
the decision up to my husband and his nephrologist. Would a 64 slice CT involve
less contrast and lessen the amount of damage caused by the contrast dye?
Darlene K., Arizona, USA, July 18, 2007
Annie -- it would be good if the cardiologist
who did the invasive angiogram could contact the radiologist who did the
CT and perhaps it could be a learning experience for both. We're awaiting
the results of the CorE 64 trial in the fall, which pits 64 slice CT
angiograms against the standard invasive angiogram -- but studies done
with 16 slice units show a very high negative predictability: if the CT
shows no disease, there is none. 16 slice fell down a bit on positive predictability,
but it was still pretty accurate -- mainly not doing as accurate a job
with intermediate blockages. Not sure what to say about a severe blockage
turning out to be none at all. We would urge all posters to read through
the various articles on our Imaging and Diagnosis Center, especially our
current interview with Dr. Stephan Achenbach, who addresses some of these
issues.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 18, 2007
A month ago I had the 64 slice CT Scan I paid
for myself.It was a preventative due to family history. I had all the
stress tests and a battery of other things for a few bouts of chest pain.
This
week I had an angiogram. Reason, the CT scan radiologist said I have
a severe blockage. When the Doc went in he said NO blockage. Radiologist
must have read it wrong! Why I am told my heart is the less than 5% that
has a right artery that enters different spot on my heart. Why could
they
not see this??? I am suspicious now. Also I am told the normal heart
has pressures around 5cm and mine is 30cm. I have used nitro for severe
chest
pains now on Avalide 150/12.5 Metoprolol - Toprol XL 25 mg 81 mg aspirin
So what is
interior heart pressure and how do you fix that?
Annie, Ohio, USA, July 15, 2007
Rick -- do you mean "should I be thinking about
an angiogram"? An angioplasty is a treatment for a blocked artery, and
so far tests have shown you have none. Have you had a Calcium scoring exam?
This involves much less radiation than an all-out 64 slice CT angiogram,
and might help relieve your concern. Were your brothers' heart attacks
caused by a blocked artery? Or by a rhythm dysfunction? Runners and other
atheletes sometimes develop a slightly thickened chamber wall in the heart
which masks cardiac rhythm problems. Angiograms test for arterial blockages.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 15, 2007
My two younger brothers, ages 49 and 51 respectively
have had heart attacks, the younger one just a few days ago. After the
older one had his which he survived
with 5 stents to deal with his 95+ blockage, I had a nuclear stress as well
as a sonogram, both of which were negative conducted by my cardiologist.
Now the
younger one, a former world record holder in distance events just suffered
his heart attack a few days ago and also survived. He would appear to be
in excellent
shape with daily workouts and not a likely candidate compared to me, his oldest
and much heavier brother, age 53 but also a former runner. I have had no chest
pain but a two instances of almost passing out that weren't fuly explained
along with several of lightheadeness and just not feeling right that have
lasted from
several hours to a day or two during the last year. Should I seriously be thinking
about a angioplasty?
Rick, Tehachapi, California, USA, July 3, 2007
Glad to hear things went well. Sometimes (not
always) our own sense of our body is one of the best tests -- your sense
that something was amiss (even thought the Thallium stress test had a
good result) led you, along with your cardiologist's recommendation, to
the
correct treatment. It's odd that there was no indication of a perfusion
deficit (reduced flow) during the stress test, especially since you had
a 90% blockage -- but it is possible that the blockage increased in the
time since the test. Had you been having chest pain for a long time,
or just the past 6-12 months? Genetics are a definitely strong factor.
We
know a story about twin brothers -- one died suddenly from a coronary
blockage, so the twin decided to get a cath. Turned out he had a lesion
(blockage)
in exactly the same spot in the same artery as his less fortunate twin.
As for how to monitor your future health, by all means discuss this with
your cardiologist. CT scans are more readily available than cardiac MRI,
but they do involve radiation exposure. And both imaging modalities are
rapidly changing, getting more accurate and advanced with time. As for
radiation from a multislice CT -- a 64 slice scan, especially if done
in a gated fashion which can reduce radiation exposure, is not different
in
the amount of radiation than a Thallium stress test -- and may even be
less.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 1, 2007
I just thought I'd follow up on your (the Forum
Editor's) response to my original post of May 24. I appreciated your discussion
of testing alternatives. I decided to undergo the angiogram which I did
on May 25 and which resulted in the discovery of a 90% plus blockage and
placement of a 3.5 x 28mm SES stent in my LAD. I am feeling well and expect
to fully recover. I am writing to flesh out some details in the hope others
may benefit. My decision to undergo catheterization was affected by an
episode on Thursday (5/17) including chest pain, pain in lower jaw and
cheeks and lightheadedness. The episode lasted about 40 minutes. I had
had somewhat similar episodes (maybe two or three a year)since 2001 but
they never lasted more than 7 or 8 minutes. In addition, I had been to
the ER after one such event in 2002 and again in 2006.No heart problems
were discovered on either occasion. Furthermore, after the 9/2006 event
I had a thallium stress test which I passed with flying colors. So, I didn't
think any of the previous episodes including the one on 5/17/07 was heart
related. Being in excellent condition, I continued to think--- heartburn.
In fact, that same afternoon following the event I did my usual 45 minutes
on the stairmaster with no discomfort. However the 5/17 symptoms were more
pronounced and lasted far longer than ever before. This scared me and in
conjunction with my bad family history prompted a decision to let my cardiologist "cath
me up" to use his vernacular. It turned out to be a wise choice. But now,
for obvious reasons, I am reluctant to rely on stress testing in the future.
Do you think that I should be requesting a cardiac MRI or multislice CT
scan every year or two to monitor my heart?
Richard S., North Carolina, USA, May 30, 2007
Richard -- how to decide? That's the 64 dollar
(or 64 slice) question. There are two types of diagnostic tests: visual
tests that show blockages (angiogram, whether invasive or CT) and functional
tests that measure blood flow quantitatively (stress tests, FFR, perfusion
imaging). Current research is ongoing and soon a CT scan may be able to
accurately do both types of tests. Your doctor is correct about the "gold
standard", but that opinion is in flux right now. Invasive angiography
has long been considered the "gold standard", but in a recent
discussion we had with Dr. Harvey Hecht of Lenox
Hill Heart and Vascular Institute of New York, he opined that multislice
CT was really the new gold standard and actually yields more information
if done correctly. (Dr. Hecht is not only an imaging expert, but began
working in this field with the pioneers of angioplasty.) Most cardiologists
we've spoken to feel that the clear role of multislice CT in diagnosis
is for "intermediate" cases, where the results of a stress test
are inconclusive and where the likelihood of coronary artery disease is
not high or low. This is also currently the recommended guideline. If your
likelihood is high, then you may need to get an invasive angiogram anyway
-- and by doing both tests, you'll be doubling your radiation dose. Another
reason for going directly to an invasive angiogram is that, if a significant
blockage is found, it can be treated via stenting in the same session --
sometimes called "ad hoc angioplasty". However, some cardiologists
feel that this linking of diagnosis and treatment has led to overuse of
angioplasty and stenting. On the other hand, if your risk factor is intermediate,
why get an invasive angiogram (which does have risks, although small in
number) when a 10 minute multislice CT scan will yield the answer. One
always has to ask, how will this test change my treatment? So, the best
course of action is to consult with a cardiologist who can look over your
history and discuss this with you, and help you make the best decision
for your particular case.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 24, 2007
Hi. I am a healthy 57 yr old who exercises regularly.
However several males on both sides of the family died in their early 50's
from heart disease. In addition, my brother ,who is a year younger, had
a heart attack and Angioplasty at age 37. After I experienced chest pain
my doctor recommended a catheterization, which he described as the "gold
standard" for analyzing blood flow to the heart. I don't want an invasive
procedure if the cardiac MRI or Multislice CT will give as good (or almost
as good ) a picture of my problem. My question is--how do I choose?
Richard S., North Carolina, USA, May 24, 2007
I had a CT scan last year and have since received
3 angiograms and 3 DES stents. My doctor wants another angiogram but I
d like to consider a 64 bit scan. I also have two younger brothers both
experiencing chest symptoms similar to mine. And like me, they have both
been given a clean bill of health on all three types of stress tests. I'm
recommending a scan of sorts as my CT scan prompted my doctor to get me
in for my first angiogram where they found a 99% blockage. I would like
some feedback on your experiences, results and cost.
ASF, California, USA, March 12, 2007
Karen -- there's no question that the 64 slice
CT angiogram is less invasive. An IV of contrast dye and 15 minutes later
it's done -- no puncture of the femoral artery, no catheters, arterial
complications, etc. It's also less expensive, but obviously not if you
have to pay for it yourself. Reimbursement for Cardiac CT is a big issue
right now -- especially as more and more studies are published showing
its diagnostic accuracy. In your case, the big question is for your interventional
cardiologist or surgeon -- and that would be whether they think they can
get the information they need from the CT. As far a blockages go, the 64
slice CT has been shown to be highly accurate in excluding coronary artery
disease. In other words, if the CT shows no blockage, then there probably
isn't any. But there may be other things that your doctors are looking
for, so this is a conversation you should have specifically with the doctor
who would be doing any treatment. Normally an invasive angiogram is recommended
if it is thought that treatment is likely and would be done in the same
session. The radiation dose for a multislice CT is similar to that done
in an invasive angiogram, although this can vary widely, depending on how
the CT is done.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 9, 2007
Hello, I am a 35 year old female in relatively
good health. I had open heart surgery on May 8, 2006 to ligate a RCA to
LV Coronary Artery Fistula which was misdiagnosed when I was a child as
a heart murmur. I developed a cardiac tamponade, which required a second
surgery on May 13, 2006. After being released from the hospital, I developed
an infection in my incision (which was caught early and taken care of with
antibiotics), I then caught pneumonia which was also treated with a course
of antibiotics. My sternal incision has formed a keloid scar, for which
I have received injections of kenalog to minimize the pain & itch(3 injections
to date). I was recently (1/23/07) hospitalized for chest pains and had
several tests. The cardiac cath done prior to CAF ligation revealed no
blockages, but the tests done during the Jan 2007 hospital stay were as
follows: ECG returned an inferior infarct, X-rays revealed an enlarged
heart, nuclear stress test indicated probable issues with front & back
of heart. The doctors also suspect that my sternum hasn't fully healed
due to the rocking and crunching that happens when they palpate my chest.
One of the cardiologists I saw recommended that I undergo another cardiac
cath. I was hesitant due to the complications I had following the surgery.
I obtained another opinion, and was advised that I could choose to have
a 64 slice CTA scan performed in lieu of another cardiac cath. My quandary
is that while my insurance will cover a cardiac cath, it will not cover
a CTA scan. I would gladly pay for the CTA out of pocket if this will accurately
diagnose what is causing the chest pains; however, if I will have to eventually
undergo a cardiac cath anyway, I would rather skip the CTA even though
I am hesitating to go with another invasive procedure. Any advice would
be appreciated!
Karen A., Hawaii, USA, March 8, 2007
Does anyone know the codes for insurance purposes
for this procedure -- Multislice CT Angiogram -- (diagnosis code and procedure
code)? I am trying to find out if my provider covers it - Highmark Blue
Cross/Blue Shield. Thanks
John Burkovich, Monroeville, Pennsylvania, USA, March 7, 2007
Eileen -- we assume you mean Calcium scores --
which are done without contrast and at a low radiation dose on either a
multislice CT or an electron beam CT. They range from 0 to over 400, with
zero signifying virtually no calcium deposits, and anything over 400 being
high. A number of studies show a correlation between calcium scores and
coronary blockages (they are not the same thing -- it is possible to have
one without the other). A significant calcium score, along with an ultrasound
of the carotid artery showing plaque, has been identified in the recent SHAPE
guidelines, as an important indicator of coronary artery disease, one
which would point to further testing, either with a full dose 64 slice
CT that could show arterial blockages, or an invasive coronary angiogram,
done in the cath lab.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, March 7, 2007
I recently had a 64 slice Cardiac CT and was told
I got a score of 1. What does that mean?
Eileen, New York, USA, March 6, 2007
Patrick -- thanks for the clarification. Our Imaging
and Diagnosis Center describes the various tests given cardiac patients.
The nuclear stress test doesn't yield the kind of visual picture of the
blockage that one would get from an angiogram of the artery. It is what's
called "a functional test" -- that is, it measures the blood
flow to a specific part of the heart. For example, an angiogram might
show a 50% blockage, but the important question would be "is that
blockage an obstructive blockage? does it actually restrict blood flow
and cause ischemia to the heart?". To answer that, one needs a "perfusion
study", which is what a nuclear stress test is. It measures how
much blood flow is perfused through the artery to the heart muscle. If
a nuclear stress test is inconclusive, then the next step is usually
an angiogram. There is thought that within the near future, the nuclear
stress test may be replaced by the multislice CT angiogram -- in our interview
with Dr. Armin Zadeh, he discusses research now being done at Johns
Hopkins that would allow the CT to be both an angiogram AND a perfusion
study simultaneously: a "two-fer" in effect.
By the way, the fact that the stent in your RCA was large
is good (we assume he meant wide) -- large diameter arteries definitely
have lower restenosis rates. As for the fact that your insurance wouldn't
cover Plavix the whole time, the recent "Joint
Science Advisory", issued by all the major heart organizations,
concludes with calls upon Congress and insurers to prevent just such a
situation. Finally, regarding your other stents that are closed "like
concrete", there are new technologies being developed to open what
are called CTO's -- or chronic total occlusions. There is in fact a major
meeting going on today and tomorrow in New York, called the "Chronic
Total Occlusion Summit", addressing these issues. But these are complex
situations and, as we always advise, your cardiologist is the one who knows
your clinical status best, and also is intimately involved with what is
or is not possible, or even helpful. (Just because he "can" do
something, doesn't mean he "should".) What you "should" do,
however, is whatever you can to reduce your risk factors, which you probably
already do -- keep cholesterol and blood pressure under control, no smoking,
keep as active as possible, etc.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 22, 2007
Please let me clarify. After my nuclear stress
test this January, I had another angiogram and had a stent placed in the
RCA, which was now 90 per cent blocked. The cardiologist said it was a
large stent. He told me that the first stents had completely blocked "like
concrete" and they couldn't be opened. I have been on Plavix and Aspirin
the whole time, except for brief periods when insurance wouldn't cover
it and when I had surgery- just a few days. This procedure was earlier
this month, on February 2nd. My concern is that if this new stent blocks
up like the old one, I will die. If a nuclear stress test can not measure
how much blockage there is, then how do I monitor the situation? Exactly
what can be seen by a nuclear stress test anyway? Can't they just do an
annual heart cath angiogram?
Patrick, Costa Mesa, California, USA, February 21, 2007
When you say "the cardiologist said it couldn't
be opened") was this an interventional cardiologist? We're not clear
how it could be determined that you had a 100% blockage via a nuclear stress
test? The stress test shows function -- it can measure ischemia -- but
it doesn't visually show a blockage. One reason to have a cardiac cath
or standard coronary angiogram in cases like yours is that it is possible
to open up a blockage if one is found. By the way, nuclear stress tests
can involve a not-insignificant amount of radiation. CT angiograms also
involve radiation -- that amount is being reduced as new methods and technologies
are introduced. And a CTA can show a blockage -- however, if there is evidence
of blockages and restenosis (reblockage) a cardiac cath may be the best
diagnostic test -- mainly because it can quickly be converted into a treatment
in the same session.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 21, 2007
I am a 47 year old male. I have several negative
risk factors working against me. My father died at 74 of heart failure
after having at least 3 heart attacks and a few open heart surgeries, starting
when he was 51. I had an MI in January of 2004 and had 2 drug eluting stents
placed in the LAD artery. Then, the RCA was 60 per cent blocked. I pushed
for a nuclear stress test, and had one this January. My stents were 100
per cent blocked (the cardiologist said that it couldn't be opened) and
the RCA was 90 per cent blocked. I was told that if it reached 100 per
cent, I would die. He recommends a nuclear stress test every year. Some
collateral arteries are now providing blood flow to the left side from
the RCA. I have been on Plavix all the time since the first angiogram in
2004. Are there other ways of monitoring any blockage in the new stent
in the RCA, my life literally depends upon it.
Patrick, Costa Mesa, California, USA, February 15, 2007
Sharel -- chest pain is not always inidcative
of coronary artery disease. And in women, chest pain is a bit more complex.
Of course, your doctor is the best source of advice on any of these questions,
but we would assume that since all of your mother's tests showed negative
for ischemia and that she has been judged at low risk for coronary artery
diease, medical management and life-style changes are the way to go (we
assume she doesn't smoke, etc.). A CT Angiogram varies in cost -- you can
call an imaging center to verify -- but the question is whether there is
a reason to get the test (there is also a radiation dose involved). CTA
is very useful and accurate in ruling out CAD in intermediate cases. But
you should discuss this with your mother's cardiologist. We think he/she
would agree that a standard invasive angiogram is certainly not indicated.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 14, 2007
My mother (58yrs) went in to the hospital a few
days ago for chest pain, and high BP. SHe had been on medication for high
BP for several years. She was admitted in the hospital. Her EKG was normal
at first but troponin level was high. After a few days, troponin fluctuated
and EKG showed dynamic changes. Because her blood was not flowing well
on collection, she was put on heparin intravenously and diagnosis was Coronary
artery disease. Cholesterol is normal. After angina and burning sensation
in chest subsided, her ECHO and stress test showed negative. Her diagnosis
now was no ischemia or not at major risk. She has been released with aspirin,
increased dose of beta blocker (atenolol) and lipitor. She was told an
angiogram was unnecessary. Based on her tests. Is an angiogram advisable?
What is the out of pocket cost?
Sharel, Irvine, California, USA, February 12, 2007
David -- because everyone's clinical situation
is different, we can't recommend a specific test or treatment for any patient
-- that's up to your cardiologist. But you can definitely ask him/her why
they recommend a standard angiogram and not a multislice CT -- they may
have a very good reason and you'd be more confident if they could tell
you why, in your particular case. One possible reason would be that there's
a likelihood of an intervention being necessary, which can be done during
a catheterization, but not during a CT angiogram, which is non-invasive
and not done in a cath lab. On the other hand, state-of-the-art 64 slice
CT angiograms have a very high (99+%) negative predictability -- that is,
the CT is very accurate in ruling out coronary narrowing. Does this hospital
have a multislice CT scanner?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 10, 2007
Had an eluting stent placed in LAD 18 months ago.
Had a follow up nuclear stress EKG after 6 months and was clean. Discontinued
Plavix. 6 months later another nuclear stress EKG came back abnormal. Doc
recommends angiogram but I'm not excited about it. Is the scan the way
to go instead?
David H., Louisiana, USA, February 9, 2007
Jeff -- Read our topic above on MSCT. Yes, there
is a not-insignificant radiation dose -- depending on where and how the
MSCT is done, it's about the same as a standard angiogram. Another option
might be a Calcium Score CT. This is done without contrast and the radiation
dose is much lower. Dr. Armin Zadeh of Johns Hopkins talks about the Calcium
Scoring Exam in his interview --
scroll down about 3/4 of the way. While not as detailed as the MSCT, it
can give information on risk factors. Let us know what you decide on and
the outcome.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 28, 2007
I am a healthy 49 year old male. Except for family
history, I have a low cardiovascular risk profile (normal to low blood
pressure, never a smoker, totally clean stress test, good cholesterol profile
(119 LDL, 80 HDL), low trigs and CRP. However, my father had 2 heart attacks
in his 50's, CHF, and died of a heart attack at 78. My 47 year old sister
has a racing heart rate. My internists said if I was concerned, I could
do a Coronary CTA/MSCT to learn more about my risks. Given the radiation/cancer
and other risks, I wonder if I should? Your opinion?
Jeff H., Indiana, USA, January 28, 2007
Lloyd -- an MSCT scan in not really indicated
just to keep checking if a stent has occluded. If you were to have symptoms,
angina, etc. that might signal a reblockage (or a new one) then it might
be a way of ruling out a blockage. But there is a radiation dose delivered,
so you'd want to weigh the risk/benefit ratio first. Drug-eluting stents
have a restenosis (reblockage) rate of less than 10%.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 23, 2007
In November of 2006 I had a Taxus Stent implanted
in my LCA. Is it wise to have the Multi Slice Coronary Ct Scan to determine
if the stent is occluded over a period of time?
Lloyd R Mackney III, New York, USA, January 18, 2007
Thank You, Forum Editor. I read the articles you
referenced and yes there is risk involved in Heart Cath's and in Imaging.
I had a terrible experience with one of my Heart Catheterizations as they
nicked an artery and I suffered an acute event a few weeks later, from
this error. I guess we need to know all the facts and the patient makes
an informed decision. This 4D CT scanner is suppose to be superior but
it was ordered for my neck and not my heart/chest. I am due more heart
testing in 2 months and am trying to lower my exposure to radiation. Thanks
for this great and informative forum.
Carrie, Houston, Texas, USA, January 14, 2007
Carrie -- we addressed some of these issues in our
November 5 post below. While there isn't a hard and fast answer (due
to variations in the way the CT scan is conducted) most say the 64-slice
CT and the cath are relatively close in radiation. One of the interesting
features of a 64-slice CT angiogram is that is also covers parts of the
chest outside of the coronaries. For example, a heart scan can also reveal
information about the lungs and upper chest. No information on whether
you could combine the thyroid scan with the heart (a "too-fer")
but if you have questions about the radiation dose, ask the provider
who is doing the scan -- they would be able to tell you, based on their
own technique, how the dose compares with a cath. As for weighing the
risk of cancer, read our May 9 news feature, "Safety
Risk of Multislice CT Angiogram Compared to Cardiac Catheterization".
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 14, 2007
Question: How much radiation does one get with
the 64 slice CT scan? I would like to have this in lieu of another cath
to see if my stents are still open. I have had 3 heart caths/angiograms
in the past and know I received radiation on these. I am also scheduled
to have a 4DCT scan of the neck for thyroid issues next week. Can I eventually
suffer with some type of cancer from all this radiation? Has anyone been
told? Thanks, Carrie
Carrie, Houston, Texas, USA, January 14, 2007
Don -- glad the CT identified a problem -- had
you been having symptoms? For the latest info on the drug-eluting stent
situation, check our DES
news page, and also read our "Patient
Advisory on Late Stent Thrombosis".
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 17, 2006
I had the GE 64 slice CT That showed a 70% and
90% block. I followed that up with the cath and had two Taxus stents put
in. I am now on Plavix and aspirin, I guess for the rest of my life. Had
this done in Oct 2006. And now almost daily I read articles on the dangers
of coated stents. What gives? By the way I just can't believe the hospital
cost for the procedure and stents > $39,000. WOW.
Don, New York, USA, December 11, 2006
A in California -- contrast media have advanced
a lot over the past three decades, but they are, for the most part, still
iodine-based and some people do have allergic reactions. Make sure to discuss
this with your cardiologist prior to the CT or cath. There are techniques
for minimizing some of these reactions.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 19, 2006
I had an IVP over 30 years ago, and became nauseous
from the iodine contrast. If I have a CT or cath angiogram, can this be
prevented?
A, California, USA, November 16, 2006
Kalip -- while most Multislice CT angiograms don't
visualize inside of a stent that well, a CT done with contrast can show
if the blood flow through the stent is reduced. If you are thinking of
getting one, make sure to ask the operator these questions BEFORE. Not
all multislice studies are the same.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 8, 2006
I had two cypher stents implanted in my LAD two
years ago I am wondering if a Multislice or Multidetector 64 Slice CT Angiogram
would detect any restenosis.
Kalip, Florida, USA, November 5, 2006
Radiation dose with Multislice
CT is varies quite a bit, depending on the system being used, and the specific
way in which the test is conducted. Many CTs are now done with a "gated" system,
where the X-radiation is only emitted during a specific phase of the heartbeat.
This can reduce radiation overall very significantly. Several studies show
the radiation dose between 64 slice CT and standard catheterization to
be roughly equivalent in these cases. The reason your doctor might lean
towards the cath is that he/she feels the liklihood of coronary blockage
is higher, and that you'd ultimately have to get a cath anyway (thus doubling
the dose). However, the amount of radiation from the nuclear scan you already
have had is probably larger than either a 64 slice CT or a cath.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 5, 2006
I have had an abnormal nuclear scan with an area
of ischemia. My doctor does not want to do the cardiac CT because of the
radiation risk, as I have been treated for breast cancer. Instead he prefers
to do a cardiac cath to assess for blockages. I have had absolutely no
cardiac symptoms and would prefer the cardiac CT. Is there concern for
breast cancer survivors with the high amount of radiation involved?
Linda T, Texas, USA, November 5, 2006
I had a 95% blockage of the RCA 8 years ago. I
had angioplasty and a stent. About 5 months ago I had a successful stress
test. This week I had symptoms of angina similar to that of 8 years ago,
but not as strong and not lasting long. I went to the ER and all tests
were good. Can angina re-occur after stenting with symptoms being similar
to those prior to stenting? What tests would show blockages without going
through another angiogram?
Ellen Z., New York, USA, November 3, 2006
Hi! I am 32 year old male. Suddenly, My father
passed away due to heart attack at the age of 60. I was facing psychological
problem then, I have taken stress test which is negative and I have taken
64 slice CT Scan which is negative and my doctor was wondered why I was
stressing him for a 64 slice CT scan!. Now, My question is 64 slice CT
being negative, How long I Need not worry about my heart?
Shiva, November 3, 2006
hi my husband had stent put in 2 years ago. Recently
he had 64 slice ct done. The results shows he has 1300 calcium score. Do
we need to do any further test.
L., Louisiana, USA, October 8, 2006
Dear Forum Editor, thank you for the fast reply.
Now I understand my mom's case could be restenosis or another clogged artery,
as I believe her doctor suspects. She doesn't experience any chest pain
so that is a relief. She will do a catheterization next week and her cardiologist
promised her to re-open the artery in the same session just as you said.
Thanks again and I will keep everyone posted on her condition. Thanks for
the great work you are doing in helping all of us patient concerned folks.
Rima, Lebanon, October 6, 2006
Rima, you posted to a different topic about the
thrombosis and, as we said there, thrombosis is an acute event -- it happens
quickly, completely blocks the blood flow and must be treated as an emergency
situation. You may mean "restenosis" which is a different process
whereby the blockage comes back slowly. By the way, does your mother have
any chest pains? As for the iodine-based dye, called "contrast",
the dye used in standard catheter-based angiograms is also iodine-based.
If you're allergic to one, you will be to the other. However, it seems
that your mom's cardiologist has a pretty strong suspicion that there may
be a blockage, in which case if she has a catheterization in the cath lab
and he finds one, he can treat it and re-open the artery in the same session
(not possible when doing a CT angiogram).
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, October 5, 2006
Hi. My mom had a Cypher Stent placed in her main
artery about a year ago. She recently failed a stress test and the Cardiologist
asked her to do an angiogram to see if the stent has late thrombosis or
another artery has been clogged. She wanted to do a CT scan but her Dr.
absolutely insisted that she not do it. He explained that first the Iodine
solution used could affect her stent and that if there is a clogged artery
the CT scan could put her health at risk. First of all, thanks for answering
all those questions. Now I can tell her to go through with the angiogram
/ angioplasty.
Rima, Lebanon, October 4, 2006
While the questions are flying in fast so are
your answers which is a great comfort to us all!!...by the way in my previous
post where I asked if a CT scan would be of any value after an Angiogram
and Thallium follow up I neglected to say that I did have stents placed
about 14 months ago (4 in the LAD to cover 3 blockages).
Rick, New York, USA, September 29, 2006
The questions are flying in faster than we can
answer them! But we'll try.
K. in India -- both CT scanning and standard angiography
can be done safely on elderly patients. Which you should do is really something
your cardiologist can help you with -- it's all about what you are looking
for. Be sure to ask your cardiologist why they are recommending one test
over another.
Rick -- you've had a fair amount of testing and if they
have been negative, as opposed to "intermediate", then you probably
do not have coronary artery disease. The CT angiogram is probably not going
to add information, and it does carry a radiation exposure.
Rodney from Australia -- what clinical trial are you
in? Multiple CT angiograms in a short time adds to your radiation burden
-- a multislice CT angiogram is at least as much or slightly more radiation
than a standard angiogram, and many times more than a simple chest X-ray.
Are these CT scans mandated by the trial? Let us know some more info on
this.
Al in Nevada -- you are correct. If an angiogram reveals
a blockage, it could be opened during the same procedure with a balloon
and then usually a stent to hold it open. If bypass surgery is recommended
instead, that would be a scheduled procedure (done in an operating room,
not an angiogram suite, a.k.a. a catheterization lab). With Multislice
CT, a corrective procedure cannot be done, because the CT scan is done
non-invasively -- even can be done in the doctor's office -- and it only
takes a few minutes.
Finally D.H. in New York -- first of all, nothing said
here should override anything you've been told by your doctor. You might
want to ask him/her this question, but the reason for the treadmill test
is that it is a functional test. It's one thing to look at an angiogram
or CT scan and see a blockage. It's another thing to measure whether that "blockage" is
actually causing a problem. Functional tests measure the actual amount
of oxygen being delivered, not just the visual "picture".
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 28, 2006
I am 14 months post cardiac cath with 2 cypher
stents in branches of the circumflex artery. At the time that was done
they told me that in another 12 months or so to have another nuclear scan
and treadmill test. However since that time the hospital has acquired a
64 slice CT scanner. I am wondering now which one would be the more accurate
for the follow up evaluation?
D.H., New York, USA, September 26, 2006
I am on a clinical trial for coronary plaque removal
supervised by my physician. I have had two 64 CT Spiral Angiograms done
to check progress with a 6 month interval. The Radiologist has just refused
to conduct a further CT Angiogram because he is concerned about the X-ray
radiation danger. Is his concern justified? I can easily use another Hospital.
I have had around 6 chest X-rays throughout my life - 10 overall
Rodney Whitworth, Belgrave, Victoria, Australia , September 26, 2006
If you have had an angiogram say 9 months ago
and a thallium stress test 3 months ago, both of which were negative, but
are still feeling upper chest discomfort is it a waste of time to have
the CT scan?
Rick, New York, USA, September 25, 2006
Would appreciate your view on a tragic case involving
my wife of 36yrs age. Having attended the A&E department with sever abdominal
pains, my wife was admitted into hospital. Over the next 8 days doctors
could still not diagnose the problem. An emergency operation was performed
where it was found that she had suffered a Mesenteric vein thrombosis.
Consequently she had a 1.5 meter section of small bowel removed and was
then admitted to ICU. She contracted VRE while in ICU (a patient two beds
from her had this bug) and eventually suffered multiple organ failure and
passed away. Question; After being admitted and the failure to diagnose,
can you tell me when it should have been appropriate to carry out a CT
scan or Angiogram? Kind regards Mike
Michael Horne, Bedfordshire, England, September 19, 2006
I am 84 year old. I do not experience any pain.
After a recent Thallium stress test, cardiologist recommends an angiogram.
I am reading articles re less invasive I am told that if an angiogram reveals
the need for a stent, or even by-pass surgery, it could be performed then
and there. That seem not to be the case with less invasive MultiSlice CT
imaging. Please explain the pros and cons. Thank you.
Al, Nevada, USA, September 17, 2006
my father is 77 year old recently he had mild
heart attack doctor adviced him to do angiogram. is it safe to do angiogram
for 77 year old man. he is not diabetic
K., India, September 17, 2006
Try to help with some quick answers. M.C. in Illinois
-- some patients like yourself are allergic to iodine-based contrast dyes.
There are a few ways to reduce this reaction, if an angiogram has to be
done (and standard angiograms done in the cath lab use the same type of
contrast dye as multislice CT scans). Prednisone pre-treatment as has been
recommended is one thing -- also benadryl during the procedure itself.
Diluting the contrast is also done, but this affects image quality. Depending
on the weight of the patient, a diluted solution may not allow sufficient
image quality. Tell your cardiologist your concerns. The smoother the procedure
goes, the more successful the outcome. And G., from California, yes --
all imaging is a problem with heavy patients, CT, MRI as well as standard
catheterization. CT angiography is quite accurate, especially as a negative
predictor -- if it shows no blockage, there probably isn't one. In your
case, the CT did show a blockage, but couldn't quantify (or measure) it
precisely. Paul -- there's no problem getting a CT if you have a pacemaker
-- unlike an MRI, there is no magnetic field with a CT -- it uses X-ray
radiation to image. However, the metal in the pacemaker might cause artifacts
which could interfere with imaging details that are near the pacemaker
-- this may not be a problem for imaging your coronaries.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 17, 2006
I am a 36 year old male and a a 64 slice CT that
showed blockage that "definitely did not exceed 50%". My cardiologist was
not comfortable so he ordered an angiogram. It turned out that I was 80%
blocked LAD and needed a stent. When I showed the video to the CT doctors,
they said they couldn't pick it up because I am overweight.
G., California, USA, September 17, 2006
Can you have a multislice ct angiogram, if you
have a pacemaker?
Paul H., Texas U.S.A., September 16, 2006
I am scheduled to have a ct angiogram and I am
highly allergic to the dye that is used should I be afraid? I know that
they will give a pre treatment of prednisone but can that safely assure
me that nothing will go wrong?
M.C., Illinois, USA, September 6, 2006
The question of whether a 64 slice CT scan is
as good as a standard angiogram is THE question these days. And the answer
is: it depends on each patient and what you're looking for. Vicki -- you've
been diagnosed with ischemia. We assume your tests indicate a high probability
of a coronary blockage (but please ask your doctors to verify this). If
your tests show that a blockage is pretty certain, then there's no reason
to do a multislice CT scan. You'll expose yourself to as much (or more)
radiation as a standard angiogram, and you have to go for the angiogram/angioplasty
anyway. The CT is a great option for patients with "intermediate risk" --
the test is highly accurate for negative results -- if the CT says you
don't have a blockage, you can believe it (statistics show that 30% of
all diagnostic catheterizations show no disease, so these people would
have benefited from a CT instead).
As for some other patients' questions, CT is not able
to accurately visualize the interior of stents -- too many artifacts from
the metal. Angiograms are the best option, especially because if a problem
is found, it can be dealt with in the same procedure. Likewise, potential
thrombus cannot be accurately visualized on a CT. In fact, it is almost
impossible to know where a thrombus might occur. There is research ongoing
with intravascular
ultrasound, but that is an invasive catheter-based procedure that might
typically be done during a stent placement.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, September 3, 2006
Hi, I have been diagnosed with induced ischemia
in my TMT. So the docs have suggested angiography, and if found 70%+ blockage,
they will proceed with stent angioplasty, then and there. Lot of people
are suggesting that I first do 64 slice CT before I do the angiography.
Docs.have suggested angiography directly, and then depending on situation
to do angioplasty. What do I do ? Should I do 64 slice CT, and then go
to the doc.with the results? I have no regular problem and am normal otherwise,
with no pain or irritation. Please suggest.
Vicky, India, September 3, 2006
i am M/41/1.76 meters/68Kg. Had a good experience
of physical activities. Daily runs for about 4 to 6 x400meters along with
all physical stretch exercises. No known history of heart ailments in the
family. Suddenly had type III 100% Ostial LAD thrombotic occlusion. in
LAD. underwent cag + primary PTCA+ stent(3.5mmx16mm Yukon DES) to LAD on
18.08.2006 with mechanical thrombus Aspiration (Export 6F). Though feels
now normal on medication with Ecosprin 150mg,Plavix75mg, Fovas 2.5mgetc..
But can this sudden thrombus occlusions can re appear/reoccur ? if so what
would be the chances?? Can MSCT help me in assessing with out timely?
CVK, India, August 28, 2006
Please let me know whether a person who had undergone
a bypass surgery and having inserted 3 stents could check whether he has
any more blockages in the same vessels or any other vessels by this CT
angiogram.
CHARMAN, Hong Kong, August 24, 2006
I am a 58 year old physician who just became a
patient (very scary!) A year ago I had an episode of sinus tachycardia
that was unexplained. I then had 2 stress echos and was told they were "normal",
although on the 2nd one I had some brief ventricular tachycardia and some
PVCs. I worked hard outside and had no chest pain. I changed employment
and finally followed up with a new cardiologist in the new network. He
suggested the 64-channel VCT, which found a severe stenosis in the LAD.
This quickly led to a TAXUS drug-eluting stent 5 days ago. I am doing well
so far with the aspirin and Plavix necessitated by using this stent. I
think I owe my life to divine guidance to that VCT scanner! It wasn't around
here a year ago when I had my first symptoms, and they apparently didn't
think I needed a cath at that time. Also thanks for the forum
with all the Plavix/ASA posts. I've had a lot of questions about that
- kinda scary, but I guess it's an adventure I'm now on. John (MD), Shelbyville,
Indiana (near Indianapolis) -- [Editor's Note: "VCT scan" is
a brand-name for GE's 64-slice CT scanner -- 64-slice scanners are also
made by Toshiba, Philips and Siemens.]
John Fleming MD, Community Health Network, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, August
9, 2006
My husband had a CT scan of his kidney and it
showed a blockage in the artery leading to the right kidney. When he went
for the angioplasty the Surgeon looked at the CT scan results before the
procedure and he came back and told us that there is a possibility that
they might not find a blockage. And after the procedure was done he came
and told us that there was no blockage but he did check both sides ahile
he was in there. Why would the CT scan show that there was a blockage if
there wasn't? I feel that this procedure possibly wasn't necessary. Isn't
there a more accurate test to show that there is actually a blockage before
a person has to go through a procedure to find out there really wasn't.
Granted it is peace of mind. But, considering the risks involved there
should be a more accurate test to be done?
Debbie T., Wisconsin, USA, August 9, 2006
Joan -- an angiogram is sometimes a still image,
usually in radiology. "Dynamic" implies that the angiogram is
showing movement over time, which is the normal type angiogram done in
coronary and most other interventional procedures -- sometimes called fluoroscopy.
The physician gets to see not only the blockage itself, but the flow of
blood in and out of the arterial segments, which is critical in assessing
the status of the occlusion.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 9, 2006
Am reading an article that refers to "dynamic
angiogram". Can you explain what that is?
Joan R Rose, Medical Economic Magazine, Goodyear, Arizona, USA,
August 8, 2006
Su -- we can't advocate or give medical advice
-- only your doctor can. But we can call your attention to two articles
on Angioplasty.Org that may give you more specifics. One is our interview
with Dr. Daniel
Berman; the other is our feature, Will
Multislice CT Angiography Replace Cardiac Catheterization as a Diagnostic
Tool? The basic thrust is that for "intermediate patients",
the 64-slice CT scan seems to be a good option -- but if the diagnosis
so far leads your cardiologist to believe that you may have obstructive
coronary artery disease (blockages that are reducing blood flow to your
heart muscle) and that it is likely to need an intervention, such as an
angioplasty or stent, then it probably makes more sense to go directly
to the cath lab. By the way, the radiation dose is roughly the same for
a coronary angiogram or a 64-slice CT.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 4, 2006
I am almost 60 yrs old woman, who was just told
my stress test was abnormal - i.e. EKG is abnormal, heart was slightly
enlarged and photos before and after the test show some blood flow problem.
I am in dilemma whether to stick to normal catheterization or go with new
CTA procedure, since doctors themselves are not sure about one test over
other. I am also concern with the extra radiation exposure. I have no symptoms,
neither do I have any family history of heart problems. Confused about
which test to take. Any suggestions?
Su, New Jersey, USA, August 3, 2006
K., an abdominal angiogram with runoff (sometimes
spelled "run off") visualizes the lower torso, lower abdominal
aorta (main blood vessel) and the arteries in the legs, mainly to see if
and where there may be blockages that would explain slower blood flow in
one or both legs. This procedure has traditionally been done as a standard
angiogram, but those centers that are trained and equipped with Multislice
CT equipment have had excellent results doing the procedure with CT technology.
One advantage to CT is that once the 3D image is constructed, the anatomical
view can be manipulated wihtin the computer and the arteries looked at
from an infinite number of angles, not just the one used to acquire the
image.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 3, 2006
Please explain an abdominal angiogram with runoff.
What can we expect from this procedure? There if question as to the pulse
in my husband's left leg being not as strong as the right. Any information
would be helful. Thank you.
K., Illinois, USA, August 2, 2006
Marilyn -- see the various articles referenced
in other posts about the differences between a standard angiogram and a
64-slice. The reason to do the standard one is if there's a good reason
to think an intervention (angioplasty or stent) might be done at the same
time (angioplasty or stenting can only be done in the cath lab, not with
CT equipment). For intermediate risk patients, where only the diagnosis
is the concern, not the treatment, the multislice CT is becoming more and
more the imaging procedure of choice. You, of course, have to find a hospital
or group that does 64 slice CT and make sure your insurance will reimburse
for it.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 2, 2006
My mother is scheduled for an angiogram on Friday
in Peoria. (OSF) One of her friends had the 64 Slice procedure done instead
of the regular angiogram. Is there a specific group who does this, or can
any cardiologist do this instead of the older angiogram procedure? Also,
she is only interested in the cardio portion ("At 77, I really don't want
to open up a can of worms with diagnostics of my entire chest, just the
heart"). Is it possible to do cardio only? Please let us know ASAP. Thanks!
Marilyn Oehler, Davenport, Iowa, USA, July 31, 2006
Donald -- you certainly can visualize stents with
64 slice CT -- the questions would be why would you want to? The choice
of which test to take depends on what you're looking for. A stress test
(nuclear or ultrasound) is a functional test -- rather than visualizing
any blockage, it can tell whether that blockage is actually affecting the
blood flow and causing ischemia. Usually. Sometimes it's inconclusive which
is why other tests may be needed. If there is concern you're stents have
gotten blocked up, then you may well need an angioplasty/stent to re-open
that area -- this must be done in a cath lab setting, so it usually makes
more sense to do the visualizing and treatment in the same session.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 31, 2006
When a patient already has 2 cypher stents in
their coronary arteries, can you have an exam with the 64 slice CT scanner
for futher evaluation at a later date or do you have to have the treadmill
stress test and nuclear scan for evaluation. I thought that I had read
someplace that you can't have the 64 slice CT scanner done if you already
had stents.
Donald H., Illinois, USA, July 30, 2006
California J. -- We suggest that you read our
recently posted interview
with Dr. Daniel Berman, who is the Director of Cardiac Imaging at Cedars-Sinai
in Los Angeles. He states:
"The diagnostic coronary angiogram isn’t really
a very common test anymore. I’ll bet if we were to survey the number
of coronary angiographies done in the United States today that are
done just for the purposes of establishing a diagnosis, with no intention
of doing angioplasty, it would be a very small number.... In the
intermediate likelihood range, we use the test with the highest sensitivity
and specificity for detecting obstructive disease -- and that test
is the CT coronary angiogram."
We're not saying you should have a 64 slice CT scan
instead of an angiogram, but we are suggesting that you ask your doctor
why he is recommending one over the other.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 20, 2006
Hello, I am 40 and occasionally have weird feelings
where my heart is and sometimes on my left arm. My type II diabetes is
in great control, I suffered (unknowingly) for 20 years with acute sleep
apnea and got it fixed when I was 30 and I'm 70 pounds overweight. I had
a positive MYO-View two days ago and was told today by the cardiologist
that even though he thinks the test was a false positive, he wants me to
have an angiogram next week. He never mentioned a 64-slice CT scan. Has
anyone had the angiogram and wished they had the CT scan?
J., California, USA, July 19, 2006
Thomas -- insurance coverage is something you'd
have to check with your specific plan. Many currently do not cover multislice
CT angiograms in certain situations -- that will likely change in the future
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 18, 2006
Which types of non-invasive angiograms are/are
not covered by Medicare?
Thomas H. Teglassy, Baltimore, Maryland, USA, July 17, 2006
Bob -- thanks for the article link and your posting.
It's impossible to get into the question of whether or not a given test
is necessary for a given patient without actually being your physician
-- we can say that the amount of radiation from a 64 slice CT angiogram
is as not small as, for instance, a chest X-ray is. Depending on the way
it's done, it can be the same as a catheterization, possibly 2 or 3 times
as much -- other scans have varying amounts of radiation. Ultrasound, MRIs
and ECGs don't use x-radiation at all. We're not clear if your emergency
angioplasty with stent was done to treat an acute MI (heart attack) that
you presented with (that's what emergency angioplasty usually means). If
so, and the fact that you already have a stent and are having symptoms
that aren't explained with these other tests, the only way to accurately
see if your coronary arteries are involved, or if the stent is closing
up, is probably the "gold standard" of a coronary arteriogram
(a.k.a. catheterization). You should definitely ask your cardiologist to
explain why he/she thinks it's necessary, so you can be clear for yourself
that it's not a meaningless procedure. Let us know how you make out. And,
if you haven't already, check out our Imaging
and Diagnosis Section.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 6, 2006
Had an emergency Angioplasty procedure with bare
metal stent, two months ago. Since then been back to the hospital 3X with
muscle pain and dizziness symptoms, but all tests shows no sign of a heart
attack. Doc lowered Cardio drugs doses such as Lipitor and removed the
beta blocker. Feeling ok now. The total number of tests during this time
was 7 Chest X-rays, 3 CT Chest scan, 2 CT head scan with ink, and many
ECG's, and Ultrasounds. Cardio Doc said things looked ok, but still schedule
another catheterization in two weeks! Neuro Doc made a comment to Cardio
Doc saying that those head CT weren't necessary. Now I'm questioning if
the catheterization is needed... especially after reading this news yesterday http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=71af50b0-7e55-4172-b40e-423fbbc11394&k=3863.
Just too much to handle.
Bob, Ontario, CANADA, July 6, 2006
I have an abnormal ECG and the cardiologist said
it was inferior infarct. I did CT Angiogram and the results are no blockage
of coronary artery, only mild atherosclerosis. I don't have any cardiac
symptoms, blood pressure is normal. Do I need to have a cardiac catheterization
to see what is the problems of abnormal ECG ?
W., Jakarta, Indonesia, June 16, 2006
The issue of CT versus diagnostic cath has been
getting a lot of attention lately. We have summarized SCAI's involvement
at http://www.scai.org/drlt1.aspx?PAGE_ID=4332 and
have included some good links as well.
Wayne Powell, Society for Cardiovascular Angiography and Interventions
(SCAI), Bethesda, Maryland, USA, June 15, 2006
Dear Dana --
I have just had my second angioplasty on June 1/06. I was completely amazed
that you are awake on the operating table as they repair your heart --
they have to go through your femoral artery in your groin. The nurses prep
you and they freeze your groin. Plus they will give something to help calm
you if you are anxious, also if you think you need something more, you
can have another relaxer. It does not take very long and you get to go
home in 24 hours. And best of all you will feel so much better. These Drs.
are very good at what they do so relax and it will be over before you know
it. My thoughts and prayers are with you and god bless Dana please. YOURS
BERTIE XO
Roberta Thompson, Retired, Thunder Bay, Ontario, CANADA, June
12, 2006
My husband had bypass surgery 14 years ago He
has always had his yearly thallium stress tests but now has developed a
problem with his hip joint and is unable to walk on the treadmill A heart
doc told him to have 64 multi slice ct. Is this his only choice or should
some thing else If any one could help it will be appreciated.Thanks.
N., New Jersey, USA, June 8, 2006
Gerard -- the arteries that supply blood to your
intestines are called the "mesenteric" arteries. Ischemia is
caused by lack of blood flow. This can be very serious and rapid early
diagnosis is important. Multislice (or multidetector) Computed Tomography
(a.k.a. MSCT, MDCT or CTA) is definitely an accepted tool for non-invasive
diagnosis of mesenteric ischemia. At last year's meeting of the Radiological
Society of North America (RSNA) a presentation was
made by an Egyptian hospital group that concluded: "Biphasic CT
scan with mesenteric CTA should be performed, as the first imaging modality,
for all patients with suspected acute mesenteric ischemia.".
As in heart disease, if you are considered as having a high likelihood
of arterial narrowing that might require a balloon angioplasty and/or stent,
then you might go right to the standard angiogram, during which the actual
angioplasty treatment can be performed. But, more and more, non-invasive
Multslice CT Angiography is being used for initial diagnosis -- it's faster,
cheaper, and doesn't carry with it any of the potential complications of
catheter-based angiography, even though those are small in number. This
is not the same as a standard CT scan -- it's a multlslice CT scan, usually
16 or the newer 64 slice. Of course, any clinical decisions like this can't
be made "off the web", but need to be done by your doctor, and
he/she may have specific reasons for recommending one test over another.
Just make sure you understand the "why". Good luck and let us
know how you fare.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 6, 2006
I am told i need an angiogram to look at the blood
supply around my large intestine as it became ischemic during an Ironman
distance Triathlon. Can i have a CT Scan instead
Gerard Santamaria, Cyclotek (Aust), Melbourne Australia, June
6, 2006
Nancy -- The measured accuracy of Multislice CT
angiograms is very good. Most studies have shown a "negative predictive
value" in the high 90% range -- that means that typically only a few
percent of patients with disease are not sufficiently detected. Your cardiologist
is the person to ask about the interpretation of your specific results.
For example, do you have symptoms, angina, etc.? Normally, treatment, such
as angioplasty, is not done with blockages < 70%.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 5, 2006
I have recently had a CT Angiogram that showed
25-50% blockage in two arteries. Does anyone know the accuracy of the readings?
Nancy S., Kentucky, USA, June 3, 2006
Dana, I can certainly understand why you think
it's too early, but it is! Of course, you read of very young athletes collapsing
with heart ailments, as well, and babies, but you never think it's going
to happen to you. I have a blockage of the left anterior descending artery.
My doc says it's not a main artery, but any artery that's blocked is not
an exciting prospect for me. Both of my uncles passed in their early 50's
of arterial disease (blowouts) and my Dad was miraculously saved by having
surgery after his aortic aneurysm, also in his 50's. I am now 53. I have
7 beautiful young grandchildren for whom I would like to stick around to
see them get married. My doc (and I really do like him a lot) says his
oldest patient with heart disease was 27 years old! The good side to this
is that now with meds and surgery, heart disease is not the death sentence
that it used to be! It is one of the most treatable disease, as long as
it's identified early. I think we can both say that to have found it early
was a Godsend! Good luck with your treatment plan. I know I feel worlds
better now that I'm taking 100 mg Toprol XL and walking at least 50 minutes
a day to keep fit. It took a while to get to this point though, I guess
it was a month before I felt more myself. Again, all my best!
Theresa, Hackettstown, New Jersey, USA, June 3, 2006
Just wanted to alert our readers
that Angioplasty.Org has created a new
section dealing with the various imaging tests for coronary artery
disease, covering angiograms, ultrasound, multislice CT and more
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 11, 2006
Hi! Just found out today that I will have
an angioplasty performed due to abnormal thalium and CTA results. They
both show a 70+% blockage in the RCA. I am a 36 year old female, with
a history of heart disease in my family, and symptoms of shortness of
breath (SOB) and chest pain. It seems so early...can anyone relate? Thanks
for listening!
Dana Shanks, Wichita, Kansas, USA, May 2, 2006
After a failed quadruple bypass (three of four
bypasses occluded completely within one month) my mother underwent "advanced
high risk angioplasty" where several drug eluting stents were placed, including
a very tricky spot in her LAD. Now seven months out, her cardiologist is
pushing her to have another cardiac cath., maintaining that if there is
a problem with the LAD stent she will experience a massive, fatal heart
attack. However, due to the placement of the stent, other consulting cardiologists
have said the cath. would be too risky for her. Aren't there new less invasive
procedures that can visualize the stents? Please advise! We are in a real
quandry how to proceed.
K., USA, February 11, 2006
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